topic. But I'm not sure I was being completely unfair. You said:

I didn't say Cal was dirty, I said it wasn't a stretch to think he might be. I'll stand by that statement.

Standing on its own, that opinion is not crazy and I respect it. But we are here talking about strippers and prostitutes being foisted on high school kids and young men in the UL dorms. Mitch Hedberg had a great line about buying a donut and someone trying to give him a receipt -- why do we need to bring ink and paper into this? Similarly, why are we bringing Calipari or UK into the discussion about strippers and prostitutes in the UL dorms?

The UMass and Memphis situations involving Calipari were completely different. In one instance, a player (Camby) contracted with an agent. There is no coach in any sport who would ever conspire to be a part of that because there is nothing in it for them. The school and coach gain no advantage from any involvement with an agent. UMass reported the infraction when they found out. Secondly, at Memphis, a player cheated on an SAT 1,000 miles away from campus. Rose was cleared to play by the NCAA not once but twice before the season began. Any coach would have played him. The NCAA actually cleared Calipari in the matter. There was no involvement, no money, no participation, no consent by Calipari or the schools or even shadowy boosters in either incident. The cases were a big deal I think primarily because the teams were successful and had to take final four banners down.

The UL scandal on the other hand is important standing on its own because of the appalling and obscene nature of the conduct and the direct involvement of school facilities and team staff. This wasn't a rogue booster on steroids like the Miami football thing several years ago. It wasn't a rogue player in two instances more than a decade apart like it was for Calipari. At UL, a team recruiter on salary with the school enticed young men to come to UL by providing strippers and sex in the basketball team dorm. As stupid as it is, it was a blatant attempt to gain a recruiting advantage. Whether Pitino knew about it or not, it was being organized by a UL staff member. It is beyond belief that Andre McGee could have orchestrated and carried this out without anyone else on the staff being aware of it happening. At the very least it shows a lack of institutional control.

Or look at UNC and Roy Williams problems. An entire system was set up to cheat academically to keep the athletes eligible with fake classes and everything. The school was complicit in that. Look at Bruce Pearl who directly lied to the NCAA about his recruiting violations and got a three year ban. These coaches and programs (UNC, UT, and UL) were directly involved in cheating. Calipari had some good players who individually crossed the line and it cost his teams dearly. Comparing the scope and significance of the NCAA violations, many other schools and coaches should be brought up in this instance before Calipari, if we are being fair. I provided some links here previously:

http://www.cougarboard.com/board/message.html?id=13801987

So that is what I take issue with. Somebody saw a scandal at UL involving a team recruiter paying for strippers and prostitutes for young impressionable recruits and players, in the team dorms, at a school that employs as its two most prominent coaches two men who have both previously been disgraced in sex scandals, and somebody else said -- just wait when we see what UK has been doing!. Then when singcat says "what does UK have to do with this?" you jumped in and tried to justify the cheapshot.