The story failed at the end because Frodo failed.

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Nov 12, 2024
10:04:39am

BYULAWGUY All-American

The story failed at the end because Frodo failed.

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BYULAWGUY

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Joined: Nov 16, 2001
Last login: Nov 14, 2024
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I just spent fifteen minutes discussing with a LOTR nerd the reason why the eagles just didn’t take the ring to Mordor.

Texas Hammer Amazon’s favorite customer

Nov 12, 8:37am

Gandalf got corrupted?

realtall

Nov 12, 8:38am

or he would have been I guess.

realtall

Nov 12, 8:39am

I updated to explain…he would’ve been corrupted had he taken the ring.

Nov 12, 8:40am

He would’ve been had he taken the ring. He tells Frodo this when Frodo tells him to take the ring.

Nov 12, 8:39am

yeah-yeah.

realtall

Nov 12, 8:40am

RE: I just spent fifteen minutes discussing with a LOTR nerd the reason why the

Mississippi

Nov 12, 8:39am

Wouldn't being able to talk about that for fifteen minutes put you close to nerd

RC Vikings

Nov 12, 8:40am

Fair point…in my defense, I was mostly listening.

Nov 12, 8:43am

Then why not transport the hobbit with the ring via Eagle the whole way?

Ozymandias

Nov 12, 8:40am

They would have gotten hungry and eaten him?

UNLVcougar

Nov 12, 8:42am

I might pay to watch that.

realtall

Nov 12, 8:43am

RE: I might pay to watch that.

ebv

Nov 12, 8:46am

I asked the same question…apparently the eagle could’ve still been influenced by the power of the ring.

Nov 12, 8:42am

Because Moridor has Chinese Air Defense missiles...

jrifkin48

Nov 12, 8:43am

What if the Eagle’s name was Maverick?

UNLVcougar

Nov 12, 8:44am

Eagle woulda been too tempted by proximity to the ring, dropped the hobbits

oxcoug

Nov 12, 8:43am

Tolkien responds...

bag

Nov 12, 8:44am

My co-worker did mention this, but reasoned Tolkien didn’t want to get into the details as people wouldn’t have

Nov 12, 8:49am

Wow, is response is to "shut up."

BYULAWGUY

Nov 12, 8:57am

basically.. the pothole ruins his story. there is no good reason.

Saxa

Nov 12, 9:02am

The story failed at the end because Frodo failed.

BYULAWGUY

Nov 12, 10:04am

Tolkien argues Frodo didn't fail, and that's his point. None of us can save ourselves. We can only do all we can, but

BlueBlood94

Nov 12, 10:44am

Here's a section from one of those letters: "Frodo indeed ‘failed’ as a hero, as conceived by simple minds: he did not

BlueBlood94

Nov 12, 10:47am

The real answer is that it would have made a dumb book.

ochobeeguy

Nov 12, 8:47am

Or, the obvious answer: a suicidal charge on a bird with a couple people into a land defended with its own flying beasts

BlueBlood94

Nov 12, 8:53am

Send more Eagles as distractions. Fly high enough that you're out of bow range

joelvandyne

Nov 12, 9:04am

Riiiight...because actually getting the ring into the lava isn't a factor at all either, nor could anything be done by

BlueBlood94

Nov 12, 9:44am

I should also clarify--I enjoy hypothesizing and approach it as fun, not a debate. It's a fictional story, so while I

BlueBlood94

Nov 12, 9:59am

The eagles could have carried Frodo who was carrying the ring

BYULAWGUY

Nov 12, 8:55am

Wow. Look what you've started.

KCFan85

Nov 12, 9:01am

It’s symbolism.

Nov 12, 9:03am

Interesting…my co-worker also referred to them, and Gandalf, as angels.

Nov 12, 9:09am

"whose dog is Samwise" is a terrible name for a dog.

russkiejedi

Nov 12, 9:45am

Ha! Fixed it 🙂

Nov 12, 9:50am

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