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Oct 16, 2024
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JuicyJam
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RE: Interesting. Where'd you get that stat?
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McMurphy said BYU has 3rd worse offense in Big12.
claw
Oct 16, 1:46pm
no idea, but if it is, its not our fault our defense and special teams gives us
LeonMarek
Oct 16, 1:48pm
BYU would get more yards if the end zone didn't keep getting in the way. Seriously though, if using
Soupie
Oct 16, 1:52pm
Jay Hill needs to instruct his players to run backwards when they get a turnover
HandwovenBox
Oct 16, 2:20pm
This is what he's looking at
Viva Campeche
Oct 16, 1:48pm
If you look at scoring offense we are the third best in the big 12
Viva Campeche
Oct 16, 1:49pm
This is what he should be looking at:
BYUMizzou
Oct 16, 1:59pm
Which has BYU @ 25 and “offensive darling” Colorado at #79
flyonawall
Oct 16, 3:12pm
For offense we are 60th, they are 83rd
Viva Campeche
Oct 16, 3:17pm
People who simply look at yards to assess offense need some education
Projectoor
Oct 16, 3:24pm
Also takes garbage time into account. Much better metric. No coincidence it has ISU first for the Big 12 and us 3rd.
mvtoro
Oct 16, 3:53pm
I had thought isu was a defensive team that struggled some on offense
BYU '80
Oct 16, 9:12pm
Have you watched them? Defense is their strength, but the offense churns.
mvtoro
Oct 16, 9:49pm
Yes they’ve looked miserable offensively in a couple games:
BYU '80
Oct 16, 9:54pm
Interesting, I missed those two games but the ones I’ve seen the offense has been very effective.
acadian8
Oct 16, 9:56pm
That's a combination of offensive and defensive stats though. That doesn't make offense look good.
Radioactive Coug
Oct 16, 10:38pm
ESPN efficiency has us as 8/16
downtownchrisbrown
Oct 16, 5:43pm
Doesn't matter. The team's just started putting together long drives, so they'll
BlueFever
Oct 16, 1:53pm
100% our running game right now... injuries at RB have not helped here
Coug
Oct 16, 1:58pm
We don’t have a running back good enough. Moa is the only back that is decent.
bookofdaniel
Oct 16, 6:26pm
Did we watch the same game last sat? LJ Martin had an amazing game.
karatekid
Oct 16, 6:39pm
Yes and Martin is very average. Mia is our best back.
bookofdaniel
Oct 16, 7:11pm
I think you mean Moa.
Soy Celeste
Oct 16, 9:41pm
I don't think he watches the same games as any of us. BYU could go 12-0 and he
cougarfan84
Oct 16, 7:15pm
Really? Based on what?? You can’t take any criticism at all. Martin isn’t
bookofdaniel
Oct 16, 8:21pm
You have objectively terrible opinions
MaximusMeridius
Oct 16, 11:48pm
At least he left you a solid receipt: if LJ hits 100 in a game this year, call it up.
mvtoro
Oct 16, 11:55pm
No he didn't. You could tell he wasn't 100%. When he is, you can make the argument he's the best back.
unctoothman
Oct 16, 7:17pm
RE: We don’t have a running back good enough. Moa is the only back that is decent.
Adrielle
Oct 16, 6:42pm
BYU is 3rd in the conference in points per game and 1st in the conference in points per play.
kccougar
Oct 16, 2:11pm
Our redzone efficiency is great
YOHONOMOTO
Oct 16, 3:15pm
We almost always score. It would be nice to have bit higher TD% though
JuicyJam
Oct 16, 3:23pm
Our offense overall has been pretty average.
JuicyJam
Oct 16, 2:15pm
Yet we drove 99 yards on Saturday
BYU Grounds
Oct 16, 2:22pm
Which was awesome. We also had 3 other drives that totaled 2 yards.
JuicyJam
Oct 16, 2:26pm
and yet we are 6-0. There are three facets of football, Offense, Defense and Special Teams. BYU is excelling at all 3
BYU Grounds
Oct 16, 2:27pm
The offense has been good. I wouldn't say excelling.
JuicyJam
Oct 16, 2:41pm
RE: Which was awesome. We also had 3 other drives that totaled 2 yards.
Doogal McCougar
Oct 16, 2:30pm
teams don't get first downs every drive, sorry.
Zombre
Oct 16, 2:31pm
Against bad defenses you do and this is by far the worst defense we will face the rest of the season.
Coug
Oct 16, 2:39pm
You are correct. Other teams of teens never ever struggle on a drive
NYC and Japan
Oct 16, 3:32pm
BYU gets at least 10 yards on a drive 64% of the time.
JuicyJam
Oct 16, 2:46pm
Here are the offensive FEI rankings which are opponent adjusted.
ManicBlue
Oct 16, 2:23pm
Here are the defensive FEI rankings if you're interested.
ManicBlue
Oct 16, 2:34pm
I would note that both offense and defense are still being held down by last yr
rcbyufan
Oct 16, 4:17pm
I don't believe FEI rankings use last year's metrics at all.
ManicBlue
Oct 16, 4:20pm
They do. It drops off thru the year. FEI is one of the best IMO because they
rcbyufan
Oct 16, 4:32pm
Nothing I've read about how FEI rankings are determined show that they use previous year's stats. I'd be interested to
ManicBlue
Oct 16, 5:05pm
See tweet
rcbyufan
Oct 16, 10:29pm
Does that mean after this week they'll quit using last year altogether?
Soupie
Oct 16, 10:32pm
We will be at 6 games after this week. So it will be at 25%. I think it drops
rcbyufan
Oct 16, 10:41pm
Maybe it's because we've played the 3rd hardest schedule in the NCAA
WDaddy
Oct 16, 2:25pm
He has also consistently picked against us, so he is an idiot
2FarGone
Oct 16, 2:36pm
Good at reporting, bad at assessing a team
SoBlueitHurts
Oct 16, 4:54pm
BYU has an offensive efficiency rank of 38 according to ESPN, 8th in B12
Projectoor
Oct 16, 2:45pm
BYU's offense can't even take the field when the defense or ST scores.
Brandoblueblood
Oct 16, 3:00pm
I'd grade offense by number of points the offense puts up
CoolB
Oct 16, 3:20pm
Except even that is misleading when the defense or special teams scores
Brandoblueblood
Oct 16, 5:11pm
BYU is currently #72 in total offense. That's mediocre in my book. Must get
CT98
Oct 16, 3:28pm
Where are we in starting field position?
ManicBlue
Oct 16, 3:40pm
Total offense is a stupid metric to rank teams and make any kind of judgement.
cougaman
Oct 16, 4:07pm
I agree it's not the best metric. It's looking at total yards gained.
CT98
Oct 16, 5:21pm
Total offense is one of the dumbest metrics ever conceived.
rcbyufan
Oct 16, 4:20pm
Second to time of possession. Super overrated.
mvtoro
Oct 16, 4:20pm
100%. Each team gets the same amount of possessions in a game...
Brandoblueblood
Oct 16, 5:15pm
Those numbers are skewed. The O can't score points when D and ST do
Brandoblueblood
Oct 16, 5:14pm
Great point and I agree that the metric can be misleading. I'm more concerned
CT98
Oct 16, 5:29pm
But AZ got yards with 5 minutes left. Haha.
YbeatsU
Oct 16, 5:25pm
Despite what some fans think, BYU was still trying to get first downs at the end
CT98
Oct 16, 5:34pm
As long as we could do it without throwing a pass.
thirdgencoug
Oct 16, 5:47pm
BYU has spent on average half the game in burn clock mode not score urgency mode
NYC and Japan
Oct 16, 3:35pm
I've been critical of the offense and I'll admit they've been better than I
CameronG
Oct 16, 3:58pm
In terms of talent, he might be right. In terms of performance & discipline, though? No way are we that bad.
SinkingQuffa
Oct 16, 4:05pm
It's fair to criticize BYU's 3rd down conversion rate, but otherwise they have been solid if not stellar.
acadian8
Oct 16, 4:07pm
Run O has struggled as well, which is largely to blame for our 3rd down %
Boring
Oct 16, 4:32pm
For sure, hopefully now that Martin, Moa, and Rope-a-Tee are back that will improve a lot.
acadian8
Oct 16, 5:18pm
Even 3rd down conversions is "off" because BYU goes for it so often on 4th.
Brandoblueblood
Oct 16, 5:19pm
I'd like to see fewer 4th down attempts. Not because I'm opposed to going for it on 4th, but because it isn't required.
acadian8
Oct 16, 5:28pm
we were not good at the beginning of the year. I’m OK with this because we have
HeyU
Oct 16, 4:16pm
Everyone - BYU has the best Defense in the Big 12 McMurphy, but their offense...
ALC
Oct 16, 4:42pm
Our O needs to step up and is our weakness. But still, we're 6-0. 🤷♂️
IronPotato
Oct 16, 6:25pm
Some offensive drive numbers I have (if my numbers are correct):
Spiff
Oct 16, 6:54pm
Excellent analysis, thanks!
acadian8
Oct 16, 7:25pm
This is good stuff. I wonder how BYU 45% scoring rate compares to other teams?
CT98
Oct 16, 10:25pm
Tell me more about how awesome this defense is…. 🤣
Gandolfthewhite
Oct 16, 7:23pm
Jeff Hansen refers to a stat that's "total available yards"
MaximusMeridius
Oct 16, 8:26pm
Here's what I have. Based on the 69 drives I listed above, BYU could have gained 4,612 yards if every drive was a TD.
Spiff
Oct 16, 8:29pm
60th. Pretty average
JuicyJam
Oct 16, 8:30pm
Went back to my tracker and last year BYU had 10,511 yards available and gained 3,717 (or 35.4%).
Spiff
Oct 16, 8:44pm
Interesting. Where'd you get that stat?
MaximusMeridius
Oct 16, 9:14pm
RE: Interesting. Where'd you get that stat?
JuicyJam
Oct 16, 9:27pm
defense is top 10. Doesn't matter what stat you look at, the D is awesome.
here's to hoping
1:20am
Looking just at the offensive side of the ball, looks like we are 11/16 in big12
here's to hoping
1:25am
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