How many 12-1 P5 teams have not been ranked top 12 ever?

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Sep 30, 2024
1:43:22pm

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How many 12-1 P5 teams have not been ranked top 12 ever?

2023: 4 1 loss P5 teams, all ranked 7 or better
2022: 2 1 loss P5 teams, ranked 3rd and 4th
2021: 4 1 loss P5 teams, lowest ranked was 5th
2020: weird year, Northwestern was the lowest ranked P5 1 loss team at 14 but was only 5-1
2019: 4 P5 1 loss teams, lowest ranked was 7
2018: 2 P5 1 loss teams, lowest ranked was 6

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This isn’t ideal… it’s possible for BYU, Iowa State and Colorado to go undefeated in conference.

touchdownbyu All-American

Sep 30, 7:40am

I guarantee that won’t happen

RdF3

Sep 30, 7:40am

Is that a beefy burrito promise?

Longseason

Sep 30, 7:48am

Yes RdF3, are you willing to be a REAL college football fan and back up that

Sep 30, 7:58am

RE: Is that a beefy burrito promise?

NonmormonYfan89

Sep 30, 9:11am

Board name checks out

Cooouuugs

Sep 30, 9:36am

A frozen beefy burrito challenge

Knight-who-says-ni

Sep 30, 10:50am

You beat me to it 😂

Pretorian

Sep 30, 11:27am

We go undefeated in conference, we're actually undefeated. We wouldn't be left

paulb

Sep 30, 7:42am

It looks like that’s a tiebreaker after conference SOS

squirrelyearl

Sep 30, 8:07am

I’m sure this will never happen, but theoretically, how does a coin toss work

byuinva

Sep 30, 11:49am

Probably either flip 3 coins simultaneously and odd man out is out of the CC

squirrelyearl

Sep 30, 1:01pm

Extremely unlikely to have a 2 way tie for the second spot after all those tie-

SoBlueitHurts

Sep 30, 1:06pm

An undefeated P4 team would almost certainly earn at at large bid

Stalwart Man

Sep 30, 12:11pm

That should favor us (at least for now) since KSU, Utah, Arizona, and maybe OkSt

SoBlueitHurts

Sep 30, 12:53pm

I don’t think the undefeated thing will be an issue this year, but a 16 team, divisionless conference

Indy Coug

Sep 30, 7:43am

Even *if* we were left out of the B12 champ game (in that scenario), we'd be a

Ferb

Sep 30, 7:43am

Very true. The only downside is we'd be locked out of the opportunity to claim

Corn Pop

Sep 30, 7:58am

A home playoff game would be better than a buy but don't see that ever happening

johnnybyu

Sep 30, 8:00am

been or beaten? I can't like a post saying would have "been Utah"

SoBlueitHurts

Sep 30, 12:54pm

It would be fine because all 3 would make the playoff so no big deal.

BYUCLA

Sep 30, 7:54am

A lot of the playoff projections have

oilman

Sep 30, 9:06am

A 12-0 Big 12 team is not getting left out and neither is a 12-1 for that matter

BYUFootballisBack

Sep 30, 10:32am

Agree on 12-0, disagree on 12-1 for at large

SoBlueitHurts

Sep 30, 12:56pm

How many 12-1 P5 teams have not been ranked top 12 ever?

BYUFootballisBack

Sep 30, 1:43pm

2 loss p5 teams don't always make it, but most of the time they are still top 12

BYUFootballisBack

Sep 30, 1:49pm

The caveat to this is that #12 would have been left out most years as the G5

BYUFootballisBack

Sep 30, 1:51pm

So the lowest a 1-loss P5 team has been ranked is #7 but some think a 1-loss

BYUCLA

Sep 30, 1:50pm

People don't realize just how few teams go undefeated or only 1 loss every year

BYUFootballisBack

Sep 30, 1:52pm

Seems you have forgotten Gary Barta's mental gymnastics.

SoBlueitHurts

Sep 30, 1:56pm

New era with a new level of SEC and B1G bias

SoBlueitHurts

Sep 30, 1:54pm

The committee will find ways to justify it (not that it will happen so we won't

SoBlueitHurts

Sep 30, 1:55pm

All 12-1 or better P4 teams will be in the playoff (barring a historical season

BYUFootballisBack

Sep 30, 2:05pm

You heard Gary Barta in 2020. Do you really think the committee will not find a

SoBlueitHurts

Sep 30, 2:42pm

There are almost never more than 12 P5 teams with 2 or less losses, I could see

BYUFootballisBack

Sep 30, 2:48pm

I think we are saying that even with 2-loss B1G/SEC teams ahead of 1-loss Big 12

BYUCLA

Sep 30, 2:48pm

Exactly this, 1 loss power 4/5 teams have ALWAYS been top 10, always, there just

BYUFootballisBack

Sep 30, 2:49pm

I am more confident in the math of two loss teams than I am the rankings

SoBlueitHurts

Sep 30, 3:13pm

A 2 loss Big12 team likely only gets in if they win the CCG

BYUFootballisBack

Sep 30, 3:28pm

This seems likely, but we were talking 2 loss from those and 1 from ours. Very

SoBlueitHurts

Sep 30, 3:08pm

Problem with past year comparisons is the cream of the crop has consolidated in

Cooouuugs

Sep 30, 2:05pm

Every P4 undefeated team makes the playoff. Loser of the CCG might miss, because

NYC and Japan

Sep 30, 11:00am

Aside from the 5 autobids playoff selection is an individual team not conference

BYUCLA

Sep 30, 11:29am

I think they think we will beat each other up. But I really question how ACC

SoBlueitHurts

Sep 30, 12:55pm

In that scenario, it would come down to tiebreaker rule 4 (in-conference SOS)

zuko

Sep 30, 8:00am

I think that would be ideal.

fbguru

Sep 30, 8:13am

Big 12 would have a decent shot to get 3 teams in the CFP. That is ideal.

Doogal McCougar

Sep 30, 8:39am

We play tougher teams than Colorado in conference and are 3-0 noncon

Veep

Sep 30, 8:52am

Congrats! You win the "silliest thing to worry about" award for the day!

Roko's Basilisk

Sep 30, 9:44am

Always nice to realize that anyone we play won't go undefeated. 🙂

VB2

Sep 30, 10:09am

Fortunately each will only have one loss.

Ripliancum

Sep 30, 10:16am

Why didn't you think of this before the season started?

VB2

Sep 30, 10:20am

Yikes, the Colorado hype would be insufferable.

Bluedarts

Sep 30, 11:09am

Someone needs to reply with detailed study of all 2024 B12 tiebreaker scenarios

Cooouuugs

Sep 30, 11:39am

There have literally only been 13 undefeated P5(4) teams in the playoffs in 9 yr

NYC and Japan

Sep 30, 12:21pm

VERY IDEAL! Best way to get 3 teams in CFB Playoff!

SoBlueitHurts

Sep 30, 12:51pm

I hate large conferences for this reason. The champion can still be subjective.

seacougar

Sep 30, 1:42pm

If we go undefeated in conference but get left out of the championship, we get a

NorthernCougifornia

Sep 30, 1:46pm

Ain't gonna happen for ANY of us. KState's the favorite to win the conf, imo. Their huge slip-up vs us notwithstanding.

SinkingQuffa

Sep 30, 2:12pm

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