“Gifted”. All three turnovers were take-aways, not give-aways.

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Sep 22, 2024
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This is interesting post game analysis by K-State folks

Coug98

Sep 22, 11:23am

The total yards thing is a red herring... BYU's starting field position was the 44 yard line. What was the efficiency of

P-Boy Squad

Sep 22, 11:38am

K-state - 17 1st downs, BYU - 14 1st downs. 4th, 0-3 v. 1-1.

valcorger

Sep 22, 12:06pm

K State got 39% of Available Yds. BYU got 54% of Available Yds.

rcbyufan

Sep 22, 8:44pm

Seem to say that KSU was the better team and BYU had a bunch of lucky plays...

lbmango

Sep 22, 11:39am

BYU still wins 10-9 if you takeaway the big middle, just saying

ABCoug

Sep 22, 11:53am

I heard more that BYU's a good team that you can't make so many mistakes against

Forzaitalia

Sep 22, 12:51pm

Austin Collie explained in the post game that if the defense does that over and

Rhubarb

Sep 22, 2:57pm

It’s fine logic until you only score 9 points

canuckchuck

Sep 22, 4:22pm

It’s possible K state is better at moving the ball from the 20 to the 20, but

Blue chunks

Sep 22, 8:12pm

Watched 13 minutes. Reasonable dudes—and they’re hurting—but you can’t analyze

Nittany Cougar

Sep 22, 11:42am

Hard to buy that when they only score 9 pnts total and 3 of those very

ABCoug

Sep 22, 11:55am

We also forced those turnovers - there wasn't anything where they just gave it away.

No touching

Sep 22, 4:06pm

BYU offense did not manufacture one drive from its own territory to the endzone

byujacob

Sep 22, 11:42am

Neither did K-State.

Spaticus

Sep 22, 11:47am

RE: Neither did K-State.

Samurai Jack

Sep 22, 4:55pm

I'd like to report a murder.

Mitty

Sep 22, 7:29pm

As noted above, the average starting field position was our 44 yard line

oxcoug

Sep 22, 11:48am

Yep, being gifted great field position doesn't automatically equate to TDs. SMU against us, for example

Chemish

Sep 22, 11:52am

“Gifted”. All three turnovers were take-aways, not give-aways.

valcorger

Sep 22, 12:07pm

That's true

byujacob

Sep 22, 11:55am

Yeah the punt for field position could have been exchanged for 4th down gamble

ABCoug

Sep 22, 11:58am

Didn’t have any opportunities in the whole second half either

puntersarepeople

Sep 22, 12:07pm

You know something else? They also had some short field, quick strike touchdown

Polecat

Sep 22, 5:43pm

I saw the game

byujacob

Sep 22, 5:53pm

Your wording makes you sound like you’re zeroing in on a perceived flaw in the

Polecat

Sep 22, 6:01pm

I posted a pretty fair grade of the offense and gave them a B. I think it's a fair grade. I don't see why anything

byujacob

Sep 22, 10:31pm

You can always find a way to rain on a win.

OldFogey

Sep 22, 6:15pm

What a failed philosophy. That means that if your team wins 85-0 you would still

BYU I Bleed Blue

Sep 22, 9:42pm

BYU defense forced FGs - why not ream KSUs D for not holding?

braddahmike

Sep 22, 12:09pm

They make some pretty bad points too.

royal_blue

Sep 22, 12:20pm

The main reason they lost is because their QB was incompetent as a thrower

puntersarepeople

Sep 22, 12:24pm

Actually, that’s probably true. BYU struggles in afternoon games.

Boring

Sep 22, 2:15pm

I think they win 7 or 10. When you run for 200 plus you usually win unless turn

johnnybyu

Sep 22, 8:31pm

Valid points. There were some flukey plays that went BYU's way & BYU is good not

Forzaitalia

Sep 22, 12:38pm

The best part of the game for byu was finding a running back/running game.

dixieutahbyuzag

Sep 22, 5:19pm

Yes, I like this! Still focused on getting better. As well as the BYU defense

jaba166

Sep 22, 6:41pm

I'm tired of the whiny excuse of "We beat ourselves". Ya, they made mistakes,

WabiSabi

Sep 22, 2:05pm

Kept expecting that guy, Ryan, on the right to introduce Dunder Mifflin Infinity

DirtyWater

Sep 22, 2:16pm

Kind of tough to analyze a game you lost 38-9 and see how the winning team

BYU I Bleed Blue

Sep 22, 2:18pm

Had to laugh when they talked about K-State defense did their part…

Lvworkman

Sep 22, 2:21pm

Yep, except for the 24 points that our offense scored, compared to the 9 for KSU

BYU I Bleed Blue

Sep 22, 2:25pm

"Not what BYU did, but what KState did" Bullcrap. You got punked by the D.

cougar95

Sep 22, 2:41pm

When “analysis” is a manifestation of the stages of the grief cycle. Plenty of

Samurai Jack

Sep 22, 4:53pm

Interesting they don't address going for it on 4th and short, but don't make one

Jasbo

Sep 22, 4:53pm

Yes, good points, but the one they overlook is that we exposed Avery Johnson and

Hawk in the 303

Sep 22, 5:36pm

BYU got the win. Played 10 times BYU wins maybe 1,2, or 3. KState is good!

HeyU

Sep 22, 8:35pm

How do you conclude that when we won by 29? That would make this game 36-40

jre85

Sep 22, 9:55pm

Time will tell my friend.

HeyU

Sep 23, 6:47am

Wow! Bad take. Seriously bad. BYU dominated. Would they win 10 of 10? Probably

NYC and Japan

Sep 22, 10:54pm

Time will tell my friend

HeyU

Sep 23, 6:47am

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