OK. I work with a lot of people who have been in my industry/company 20+ years

Sep 19, 2024
11:06:23am

fulano All-American

few of them (if any) are qualified to run the place. Leadership is about more than putting in your time and waiting your turn.

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New Vale Hale book: “Out of the Blue”

The Y's Insider

Sep 19, 10:38am

He did his best. He was never the right guy for a role like that. Rondo would

fulano

Sep 19, 10:42am

He went on to be a Vice President at UVU and President of the Chamber of Commerc

byubyu

Sep 19, 10:47am

His AD role at BYU qualified him for those roles (resume wise anyway)

fulano

Sep 19, 10:51am

He was in the AD office like 20 years before being named AD. He was qualified

byubyu

Sep 19, 11:04am

OK. I work with a lot of people who have been in my industry/company 20+ years

fulano

Sep 19, 11:06am

And I'm saying his resume was impressive enough to get those jobs prior to

byubyu

Sep 19, 11:17am

Not sure what Val did to hurt you, but I hope you can recover

NYC and Japan

Sep 19, 12:54pm

Okay, but you acted like he went from AD to high school girl's basketball ref as a career move.

Knee Brace

Sep 19, 11:05am

you are right. My bad. I did not know about his career. I just saw him reffing

fulano

Sep 19, 11:08am

That’s his point. None of those things are athletics related.

andrewg3

Sep 19, 1:25pm

No. His point was that Val was officiating 9th grade girls games and using that

byubyu

Sep 19, 1:32pm

True. He didn't flame out, but he wasn't a great athletics mind either. Former

andrewg3

Sep 19, 2:43pm

Val Hal would lik a word with you.

Q-grr

Sep 19, 10:42am

I remember taking a Comm class with Val. He was a good guy . . .

85fan

Sep 19, 10:43am

Me too. He was a very good professor. AD, not so much, but he is a great guy.

cosmohio

Sep 19, 11:29am

Val sucked

Turd Ferguson

Sep 19, 10:49am

This book is a home run waiting to happen

Hazzard

Sep 19, 12:30pm

RE: This book is a home run waiting to happen

Coop

Sep 19, 12:48pm

RE: This book is a home run waiting to happen

HiLife

Sep 19, 7:14pm

What a disaster the AD became under his stewardship.

ebv

Sep 19, 1:44pm

The trio of Val, Skousen, and Bateman nearly killed BYU athletics

arizonacougarfan

Sep 19, 2:01pm

And the BOT members who promoted & appointed them. We'll leave them unnamed, of course.

SinkingQuffa

Sep 19, 2:44pm

uh oh

BYU Grounds

Sep 19, 3:41pm

In some ways Bateman was to academics what Hale was to athletics.

Emmett Fitz-Hume

Sep 19, 3:56pm

Let he who has not pretended to be Gertrude Himmelfarb throw the first stone!

calvindyer

Sep 19, 4:54pm

At least Val Hale didn't pull a UU business valuation, a la the PAC.

TrueBlue67

Sep 19, 2:40pm

Guys, it was Bateman that sucked not Val. They hired Val cause they

bookofdaniel

Sep 19, 3:17pm

He was the worst ever. Such a terrible president.

Turd Ferguson

Sep 19, 3:47pm

I think there's a lot of truth to this. That said, while Val may have been good

Emmett Fitz-Hume

Sep 19, 3:48pm

He couldn’t do his job the way he wanted it. In a way, Bateman was the AD. Every

bookofdaniel

Sep 19, 4:24pm

The switch to navy and tan was 100% Bateman's idea, not Hale's. Hale was

Threw and Through

Sep 19, 5:02pm

You summed up everything I was trying to say with this. Next time I’ll just

bookofdaniel

Sep 19, 5:48pm

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