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Sep 19, 2024
10:33:39am

Socrates Johnson All-American

Cam didn't check anything down. You didn't watch the game and are now indulging

in a speculative scenario that might allow you to feel like you're right about the competition levels being the primary reason Jake's PFF has changed so much from last year. That speculative scenario, it turns out, is not true--and you are still wrong.

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Socrates Johnson

Previous username: jkccoug
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Last login: Sep 19, 2024
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Author

Time

NFL QB Gif Nielsen says those hand-wringing over Retzlaff "need to take a

jaba166

Sep 17, 11:39pm

He’s wrong- he’s just being supportive as a former great. I doubt

SBB

Sep 18, 4:29am

He's watched all the games and that was his opinion. By his own words

Zip

Sep 18, 5:28am

I believe that. I also believe that’s not what he really thinks. He’s being

SBB

Sep 18, 5:34am

If he didn’t like JR he’d just keep his mouth shut. He wouldn’t endorse

CougarEat

Sep 18, 5:56am

I disagree

SBB

Sep 18, 6:07am

RE: I disagree

Doogal McCougar

Sep 18, 8:19am

Well, by his own mouth he declared opposite what you think

Zip

Sep 18, 6:12am

What do you want these guys to say when they're asked

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 7:35am

You think he didn’t expect that question before going to a Y’s Guys interview?

CougarEat

Sep 18, 8:25am

You think Giff would dodge an interview because of one question

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 9:16am

All I’m saying is if he didn’t believe in JR he certainly could have chosen to

CougarEat

Sep 18, 10:49am

Take a nervous pill doesnt sound like a shot

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 11:02am

So you're saying there's a chance....Giff Nielsen is telling a lie?? I don't

jaba166

Sep 18, 7:01pm

Ironic take seeing as many on CB

ALC

Sep 18, 10:03am

Why is it ironic?

SBB

Sep 18, 10:14am

Because you are questioning his perspective and assuming

ALC

Sep 18, 12:12pm

Not ironic or contrary to what was expected or intended

SBB

Sep 18, 12:37pm

pff agrees with him. So do the coaches. What would convince people?

Socrates Johnson

Sep 18, 11:52am

I would be saying the same thing as the coaches

SBB

Sep 18, 12:07pm

Why is pff lying for him? what's the conspiracy?

Socrates Johnson

Sep 18, 1:22pm

PFF said Retzlaff wasn't a college QB last year. What was the conspiracy then?

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 1:56pm

What if they rated him properly for how he played then and properly for how he

Socrates Johnson

Sep 18, 6:37pm

He is much better against awful competition than he has been against good(gasp)

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 8:16pm

Competition is specifically factored in to PFF. That's why Rising was not rated

Socrates Johnson

Sep 18, 8:44pm

PFF is based on an analyst grading your performance on each play

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 9:20pm

I am aware. Are you aware that they adjust it based on how hard it was for you

Socrates Johnson

Sep 18, 9:47pm

Very aware actually but its not stat driven or weighted the way you are thinking

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 10:10pm

Cam didn't check anything down. You didn't watch the game and are now indulging

Socrates Johnson

10:33am

I wouldn’t call it a lie. I’d call it what I did. Being a team player

SBB

Sep 18, 1:57pm

PFF is being a team player for BYU? PFF is protecting JR from BYU's fanbase now?

Socrates Johnson

Sep 18, 6:39pm

You got it! The conspiracy runs very deep!

jaba166

Sep 18, 7:06pm

RE: You got it! The conspiracy runs very deep!

Socrates Johnson

Sep 18, 8:15pm

And there it is....but SBB (and many others) doesn't care. There just has to be

jaba166

Sep 18, 7:04pm

What do you "absolutely love" about Bohanon?

2FarGone

Sep 18, 8:04am

Let's see....hmm. His selflessness, his leadership, his experience as a B12

jaba166

Sep 18, 7:14pm

The hard part for many fans is that Retzlaff hasn't shown enough yet this year

Doogal McCougar

Sep 18, 8:17am

I was asking for GB. After Wyoming and the stats, if we win or JR has a good

Powerbait DPM

Sep 18, 8:59am

Too late! True fans are already onboard since he arrived at BYU, as they are

jaba166

Sep 18, 7:18pm

This is 100% accurate

TheWookie

Sep 18, 8:28am

I hope Kalani got the message. Because he's seemed pretty concerned

Goliath

Sep 18, 8:44am

PFF seems far more positive about JR than most cb'ers, press and odds guys

eyes4byu

Sep 18, 8:57am

RE: PFF seems far more positive about JR than most cb'ers, press and odds guys

XoCougs

Sep 18, 9:19am

PFF absoutely destroyed Jake last year. Before you rely too much on PFF

stansburycoug

Sep 18, 9:21am

But they repented! Have you?

jaba166

Sep 18, 7:20pm

Come on.. Giff played as a backup before most of us were born. He played college before the forward pass was big.

AltTabbins

Sep 18, 8:54am

It's just fun to have a "big game." As Giff said, just win, baby, especially

jaba166

Sep 18, 7:24pm

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