The first number is the running back, the second is the TE

Sep 4, 2024
11:00:34am

Oatmeal Starter

So an 11 personnel package is 1 running back, 1 TE and 3 wide receivers. A 12 personnel is 1 RB, 2 TEs, 2 WR package. A 10 or 11 personnel formation tends to pass more frequently than a 12 or 13 personnel formation.

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FB translator please

EM_Puma

Sep 4, 10:52am

It's players in an offensive formation. first number: running back. second number: tight ends.

shimmy

Sep 4, 10:53am

So, 11 Personnel is 1 RB, 1 TE?

EM_Puma

Sep 4, 10:58am

Yes

AzCugrFan

Sep 4, 12:09pm

12 = 1 RB 2 TE; 13 = 1 RB 3 TE; 22 = 2 RB 2 TE, etc.

leanmeanCoug

Sep 4, 10:54am

22 = 2RBs, 2 TEs

SJS

Sep 4, 10:54am

For personnel packages they use each digit to represent a position

BYUFam1

Sep 4, 10:54am

Related: if you didn’t know the difference between 12 and 22 personnel before

Junior Deputy

Sep 4, 10:58am

Amen! It reminds me of the Tuiaki is #45 or whatever in ppg so he is doing a

kimdaddy35

Sep 4, 11:08am

Seems like you are saying "Amen", but mean the opposite of Amen.

Eddie

Sep 4, 6:10pm

Football has 11 players on each side. It’s a lot easier if you can sneak in 12.

Reasonable1

Sep 4, 11:26am

And down-right impossible for the other team if you play 22!!

BYUHgrad

Sep 4, 12:30pm

Sometimes depends how big those 22 are

mvtoro

Sep 4, 2:06pm

Not sure I agree necesarilly. You don't have to know that stuff to know when an

BlueVU

Sep 4, 11:43am

To know what a reasonable solution is to a problem you have to understand the problem. If you think you understand the

mvtoro

Sep 4, 2:03pm

I agree in that if someone is saying that BYU needs to fire ARod and that they

BlueVU

Sep 4, 2:33pm

You need to know enough to know what the actual problem is AND what the actual potential solutions are for that problem.

mvtoro

Sep 4, 2:58pm

Haha, great graphic! Fans are gonna fan, but if there are any on this board to

Buster Scruggs

Sep 4, 2:34pm

Yeah, that’s the idea of the Dunning-Krueger effect. The more you know, the more you understand you don’t know compared

mvtoro

Sep 4, 3:03pm

HEY, you don't tell me what to do even if I dont know what we are discussing!

Ode to Hoy

Sep 4, 1:37pm

The first number is the running back, the second is the TE

Oatmeal

Sep 4, 11:00am

I've made fun of broadcasters for years because EVERY TIME they say "13

Manti

Sep 4, 11:03am

I guess it just went over my head as I've been following FB all my life and I

EM_Puma

Sep 4, 11:12am

It's become a cute thing for broadcasters to say to sound smart the last few

Manti

Sep 4, 11:17am

You would be surprised. It seems like every time I go to LES I'm amazed by

kimdaddy35

Sep 4, 11:13am

And sometimes I am sitting next to that person.

coastcat

Sep 4, 1:44pm

Yup. Usually one close but LES. At ASU too, but with the added issue that they’re drunk and yelling. The most cringe is

mvtoro

Sep 4, 2:38pm

That’s overtime rules for me

shimmy

Sep 4, 2:26pm

Basically his point is we generally want 3 WRs on the field because

JuicyJam

Sep 4, 11:13am

00 Personnel is no QB/TE's?

EM_Puma

Sep 4, 11:15am

no RB, no TEs. Basically 5 WRs.

Captain Stubing

Sep 4, 11:18am

We call that "Empty"

SJS

Sep 4, 11:21am

But "Empty" could still involve TE's correct? It just means no RB's IIRC

EM_Puma

Sep 4, 11:32am

The tight end would be split out wide, like a receiver, in an empty set.

Rise Against

Sep 4, 4:03pm

“Empty” originally referred just to an empty backfield. Ie. No running backs, but could still have attached tight ends

mvtoro

Sep 4, 4:11pm

The numbers indicate in order # of Running Backs then # of Tight Ends

Adwight

Sep 4, 11:16am

While some of you already have your Urim & Thummim out...

EM_Puma

Sep 4, 11:27am

Yes

kimdaddy35

Sep 4, 11:33am

Yes, Western IL is in MaComb

BYUFam1

Sep 4, 11:51am

Yes, I believe it was a reference to the Nauvoo/Carthage area.

TriForce

Sep 4, 12:31pm

Northern Illinois also gives BYU problems.

BYUHgrad

Sep 4, 12:39pm

Ugh. My worst day of BYU football ever

cajuncoug

Sep 4, 5:13pm

RE: FB translator please

Brock12

Sep 4, 11:37am

What do you call Crowton's Max Protect formation w 4TEs 1WR? Loved that play.

hitechcpa

Sep 4, 2:01pm

4 personnel

Adwight

Sep 5, 8:45am

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