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Jul 5, 2024
9:17:51pm

Socrates Johnson All-American

As a non-Korean who has spent quite a bit of time there on business

I would say a big part of the problem is that the relations between men and women in Korea. Traditional Korean masculinity is pretty toxic from what I've seen and no new formulation of it seems to have been created that also takes into account the family structure.

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South Korea’s fertility rate is now 0.68, probably the lowest in history, for

Japan Coug

Jul 4, 12:45am

I think it’s painful living there. It’s also the only rich country that has lots

Genghis Spreads

Jul 4, 1:33am

Aren't there something like a million Canadians here?

DubuMfalme

Jul 4, 7:20am

Are those Canadian visa overstays officially tallied?

Genghis Spreads

Jul 4, 9:48am

Are Canadians rich?

Bert609

Jul 4, 10:24am

They'll follow EU's solution of bringing in Middle East migrants.

Ripliancum

Jul 4, 10:59am

Doubtful. Koreans are pretty xenophobic.

DubuMfalme

Jul 4, 11:06am

They’re racist against Southeast Asians the most

Genghis Spreads

Jul 4, 5:43pm

Yes, they are committing national suicide slowly. Lots of reasons...

Koreacoug

Jul 4, 2:31am

You left off pornography and video games.

Jul 4, 5:19am

A big thing is the pressure to get ahead and cost of education

novacoug1

Jul 4, 7:34am

As a non-Korean who has spent quite a bit of time there on business

Socrates Johnson

Jul 5, 9:17pm

Have a South Korean family in my stake. They are great people

RevolutionDeathsquad

Jul 6, 11:12am

It only takes one generation (about 25 years) to decimate a population

Bobber

Jul 4, 5:51am

This happened to China w/their 1 child policy

jlhazlewood

Jul 4, 8:20am

An interesting and unintended consequence of the 1-child policy is people became

Dr MoBYU

Jul 4, 9:44am

Happening in Japan, especially rural areas, already (lots of empty houses)

NYC and Japan

Jul 4, 3:41pm

This seems to be more driven by the decline in importance of farming &

Japan Coug

Jul 4, 4:00pm

Japan also has basically free houses in rural area and can’t give them away

NYC and Japan

Jul 4, 5:22pm

I guess this means North Korea is best Korea after all

jrifkin48

Jul 4, 7:01am

Most, if not all so-called Western countries are below the replenishment rate.

Everyman

Jul 4, 7:18am

Huge problem that people need to wake up to, and not just limited to the West

BR549

Jul 4, 7:32am

Which is easily fixed with migration.

jrifkin48

Jul 4, 10:17am

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JupiterJones

Jul 4, 7:33am

Right, and all those rates, while low, are much higher than South Korea’s. Their

Japan Coug

Jul 4, 11:36am

Population by Country in the past and future

JupiterJones

Jul 4, 7:36am

Anything below 2.06-2.07 is slow suicide. Nearly every country in East Asia...

Trappist1F

Jul 4, 7:44am

The countries you named have rates that are about double South Korea’s. Their

Japan Coug

Jul 4, 11:33am

South Korea is currently the most extreme demographic collapse on the planet...

Trappist1F

Jul 8, 12:37pm

My little bro and his wife are tryna help. 2 kids so far. And a 3rd coming today

sammyh72

Jul 4, 7:48am

I don’t really buy the cost too much reasoning. Most people my age who can

Pepe

Jul 4, 7:49am

^ Has never lived in Korea^

Wingnut

Jul 4, 8:54am

Korean society is not American society. Even when I was there as a missionary 20 years ago the cost was astronomical

Bert609

Jul 4, 10:28am

I'm sure this doesn't help

machete

Jul 4, 7:55am

interesting article!

runnincoug

Jul 4, 12:18pm

My third child was born in Seoul. I did my part!

Jul 4, 9:11am

The damage has probably been done too. Even if they had tons of kids now it’s

sunjieming

Jul 4, 9:47am

I don't think they can recover

Spiff

Jul 4, 9:57am

Interesting video on this:

Spiff

Jul 4, 10:31am

That is such a terrifying cycle, they are going to have to go all in on ai and

Pepe

Jul 4, 11:22am

And they need to figure out how to attract immigrants.

Japan Coug

Jul 4, 11:30am

Most Koreans don't want to "attract immigrants".

Trappist1F

Jul 8, 1:31pm

This isn't a South Korea problem, it's a world problem. South Korea is just way ahead of the curve

Indy Coug

Jul 4, 10:48am

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Pepe

Jul 4, 11:20am

It is a global problem, but they are an outlier anyway. Their fertility rate has

Japan Coug

Jul 4, 11:24am

One of the problems is the many women with good jobs who miss their high

Ripliancum

Jul 4, 11:37am

Here’s a good stat:

cugrz84

Jul 4, 11:41am

I heard my friends dad tell him "If you ain't got a family you ain't got "poop".

qwerew

Jul 4, 2:36pm

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