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May 19, 2024
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208to615Coug
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This is the same type of person
That will be out protesting for an outrageously high minimum wage. Wants to get paid more without advancing his skillset or growing into a more valuable asset to his or another company.
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Goals
crazY
May 19, 4:50pm
This is the new philosophy driven by younger Millenials and Gen-Z. It's the anti-work crowd. How about
CSoul
May 19, 4:53pm
Also, if you want to earn more money and get more free time, the best way is to set goals at work and
CSoul
May 19, 4:56pm
I am neither a Millennial nor anti-work. I still think setting formal goals at work is dumb. Just get out of my way and
dilbert
May 19, 5:08pm
Lots of reasons. But goals help manage bonus and make it easier to fire you.
Baron
May 19, 5:13pm
I'm very confused by your response. The "results you need" and "within budget" ARE the formal goals
CSoul
May 19, 5:17pm
What’s a word to say “achieve a specific result by a certain time”?
molodyets
May 19, 5:27pm
Well, sure. But what problem where they trying to solve when they started asking me to make formal goals 4 or 5 years
dilbert
May 19, 5:48pm
Yeh, most people I know think taking things like OKRs down to individual levels (for most roles) is stupid
CSoul
May 19, 5:56pm
I agree with you on that. Some orgs and roles goals are really difficult to set.
Baron
May 19, 6:01pm
When I was an engineer at Intel, our "goals" were determined by the finance guys
tony
May 20, 7:51am
I ask my employees to set goals so that I know what I can do to put them in a position to succeed at things they want
YIsForBrigham
May 19, 6:02pm
I tell my team, happy to help you with any goal, including advancing to another
NYC and Japan
May 19, 8:38pm
I wonder if some of the disconnect is that the onus is on the manager for goals
MarylandFan
May 19, 6:00pm
Boomer here.
Division Bell
May 19, 7:13pm
Except for one thing - organizational alignment. If the CEO has a vision
Joe
May 19, 7:58pm
Several good points.
Division Bell
May 19, 8:46pm
I think that’s true, the successful entrepreneurs I know are all self
Joe
May 19, 9:28pm
I’d say 95% of our goals set at work led to no follow up.
Lefty24
May 20, 10:05am
It’s not just the youngins
Odysseus
May 19, 5:00pm
True
CSoul
May 19, 5:02pm
The goals that HR makes me set every year do absolutely nothing. I’m not paid a
LeonMarek
May 19, 5:06pm
A good company doesn't have HR set goals with you. Your goals should be the results you need
CSoul
May 19, 5:14pm
Every company I have worked for has HR lead and submitted yearly goals that i
LeonMarek
May 19, 5:19pm
We set goals with direct managers and it's not put down, known, or tracked by HR.
CSoul
May 19, 5:21pm
HR leads the goal setting process but it set by team and decided by team but they are the org
Baron
May 19, 5:24pm
I think it's more typical of bigger and older companies for HR to do it. So I guess I agree with the people
CSoul
May 19, 5:28pm
Fair
LeonMarek
May 19, 5:32pm
I have found the opposite. And maybe we are talking past each other
Baron
May 19, 5:41pm
Ok, that's closer to what we do. Yes HR helps standardize. Yes they do training, yes they have access
CSoul
May 19, 5:47pm
Someone finally recognized that HR is overhead, huh?
Les IsMore
May 19, 6:28pm
I'm sure there are ways to go about that process that are more productive than others.
dilbert
May 19, 5:51pm
Same. HR set the timelines and provides a process, but goals are set with direct
NYC and Japan
May 19, 8:42pm
I think that's what the OP is about. Bad corporate culture.
MarylandFan
May 19, 6:04pm
HR sets DEI goals for me every year. I guess they figure no one would
Longseason
May 19, 5:52pm
I'd tell them that they can stick their dei goals where the sun don't shine.
Les IsMore
May 19, 5:57pm
I'm a burned out gen Xer who feels the same way
Belboz
May 19, 5:27pm
Read my reply to Baron above. Some of this I think has to do with your experience and company structure
CSoul
May 19, 5:29pm
My goal is to not be asked to do anything today that I didn't do yesterday
Belboz
May 19, 5:32pm
Housing and school prices are devastating now. Less focus on work isn’t why they
marinact
May 19, 5:39pm
I answered that question. I didn't say spend more time at work. And yes, not being satisfied at work is absolutely
CSoul
May 19, 5:49pm
I waste more time by a mile setting goals than reading CB
ochobeeguy
May 19, 5:43pm
That would suck
CSoul
May 19, 5:49pm
lol. This has always been the most common “goal” at work for hundreds of
valleus
May 19, 6:25pm
Much better to just show up and try to look busy. Yeah, that's how to maximize
Forzaitalia
May 19, 8:40pm
Imagine if sports teams didn't have goals, like make the NCAAs, become bowl eli-
Forzaitalia
May 20, 11:07am
You spend too much time and energy at work for that to be satisfying
NorthwestCoug
May 19, 5:10pm
That's not all wrong.
Plantagenet
May 19, 5:15pm
Yuck. I can't imagine working and not having goals to chase to keep it
BYUfan92
May 19, 5:20pm
I don't want work to be a challenge
Belboz
May 19, 5:31pm
As a retired computer scientist I long ago found that work goals are meaningless
Les IsMore
May 19, 6:23pm
I think you just wrote my story.
Belboz
May 19, 7:19pm
Depends on the job. In some roles, you don't have a lot of goals you can really chase.
Baron
May 19, 5:44pm
Agreed, and one of the reasons I like being self-employed
BYUfan92
May 19, 6:45pm
Surely there’s a middle ground. I think people who give their life to their
macdizzle
May 19, 5:30pm
Being self-employed, goals are essential. But there is also nothing fake about
Moto2001
May 19, 5:40pm
This is the same type of person
208to615Coug
May 19, 5:42pm
I’m this type of person, and I don’t do any of the things you say
LeonMarek
May 19, 5:50pm
My goal with HR goals is to spend as little time on them as possible.
OverratedHumor
May 19, 6:16pm
What's HR doing setting your goals? That's your boss' job.
Forzaitalia
May 19, 9:45pm
how awful that a business actually wants you to improve so they can survive,
bald man
May 20, 4:59am
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