At least TJ was a point guard. Elijah was not.

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Time

Needed for next year

Archaea

Jan 10, 9:20pm

Who's on your radar?

Dark Forest Green

Jan 10, 9:22pm

Let's see if we can get Cooper Flagg to transfer

spidercoug

Jan 10, 9:23pm

He could work out

Archaea

Jan 10, 9:25pm

Whoa...the favorite to be the No. 1 pick in the 2025 NBA Draft. This guy must be

84 natlchamps

Jan 10, 9:59pm

PJ Haggerty, Sebastian Thomas, KK Robinson and

Archaea

Jan 10, 9:28pm

Baker, Chandler, Davis

Cooouuugs

Jan 10, 9:29pm

And Adams

LifeLongLakerFan

Jan 10, 9:32pm

As much as this year team has been fun, next year could be even better. Depends

gp232

Jan 10, 9:39pm

So what’s the latest on Adams?

UMWolverine

Jan 10, 9:52pm

Still injured and not fit

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:07pm

Not sold on Baker in athleticism department

Archaea

Jan 10, 9:36pm

Baker is great with the ball and can score.

Idacoug

Jan 10, 9:51pm

How would we know that. UCI did not play Big 12 competition generally.

Cougarbib

Jan 11, 2:00am

He scored 17 in a game vs USC and 27 pts vs Oregon…

icecougar

Jan 12, 12:21am

It is small and it is not vs a grind with teams that will be playing you for

Cougarbib

Jan 12, 6:35am

Athleticism is different than knowing how to create space / score. His 1st step

gp232

Jan 10, 10:01pm

But someone with equal vision and superior athleticism

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:04pm

Yeah B12 full of those guards

Cooouuugs

Jan 12, 6:53am

You probably were not sold on Eli Bryant's athleticism the year he played hurt. Baker is going to be one of BYU's best.

roseyscenario

Jan 10, 10:08pm

No, I was always a proponent of his

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:09pm

He was not sloppy, he was hurt. Baker is every bit what Eli was, which was BYU's best player. Baker is a complete player

roseyscenario

Jan 10, 10:15pm

But you are wrong in that I was a big fan of Elijah.

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:17pm

Eli was never a sloppy player as you said. The athletic label has become a meaningless description. Baker is first rate.

roseyscenario

Jan 10, 10:33pm

He had some bad shooting nights and TOs

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:34pm

He played hurt. His TO rate was lower that year than his senior year. Everyone in program knew he was great.

roseyscenario

Jan 10, 10:38pm

He didn’t play his senior year. He transferred from Elon

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:41pm

Redshirted so he graduated. You posted some 15 times dissing Eli the year he was hurt. Here's one calling him over hyped

roseyscenario

Jan 10, 10:52pm

He didn’t play his fourth year of college.

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:59pm

We agree on that as I said in my previous post. Clerical error. I meant his second year at BYU.

roseyscenario

Jan 10, 11:06pm

Players progress over time and yes, injuries matter.

Cougarbib

Jan 11, 2:03am

He has plenty of athleticism. He's quicker than Hall, not as quick as Stewart

LifeLongLakerFan

Jan 11, 10:25am

And shoots 3’s at a 40% clip

UMWolverine

Jan 10, 9:51pm

Short memory, Tejon Lucas, Williams, Avarate or Hall. They were all quicker but

johnnybyu

Jan 10, 10:05pm

He is not a Big XII level PG.

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:07pm

He is a sophomore and has held his own. He is going to be the team leader for

johnnybyu

Jan 10, 10:09pm

He doesn’t shoot FTs well and not fast enough

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:10pm

I didn't think he was fast enough last year but he has been this year.

johnnybyu

Jan 10, 10:12pm

He could be serviceable if

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:14pm

Wrong. Don’t be angry when Pope goes and signs a legit B12 PG. there is a reason

gp232

Jan 10, 10:15pm

Precisely.

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:16pm

Don't be angry when said point guard backs up Hall like Williams did last year

johnnybyu

Jan 10, 10:17pm

Chandler may be tried out at PG

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:18pm

Literally zero chance next year. First he was not a PG in high school, so not

Bluforever

Jan 10, 10:24pm

We need length and quickness to play in Big XII.

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:32pm

Well we will need to go the “length and quickness” store and order some. Recall

Cougarbib

Jan 11, 2:06am

Funny. Hall is a score first, I’m the guy PG, exactly won’t we don’t need.

gp232

Jan 10, 10:25pm

Have you watched a game besides Cincinatti? Yes he shot way to many shots that

johnnybyu

Jan 10, 10:32pm

He plays hero ball a lot.

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:33pm

Archaea knows what he’s talking about

CCookie

Jan 10, 10:50pm

1000% Agreed! Signed #21 Creighton, #22 SMC, #17 SDSU and Missouri St

icecougar

Jan 12, 12:42am

Every game. More and more CBers are starting to see it. I’m guessing you are

gp232

Jan 10, 10:44pm

He could be a useful backup if he played smart

Archaea

Jan 10, 10:47pm

Do u think players might progress with experience? I agree that Hall is unlikely

Cougarbib

Jan 11, 2:14am

You are so smart not living in Utah

stoils

Jan 10, 11:05pm

It is just a lack of provincialism

Archaea

Jan 10, 11:11pm

So you are telling me Dallin Hall isn't Jimmer or Ainge? You don't say? Which

johnnybyu

Jan 10, 11:13pm

He is not Lydell or even Anson Winder

Archaea

Jan 10, 11:15pm

Winder?? I liked Lyday but that was 2001. Whiting was also great but not nearly

johnnybyu

Jan 10, 11:18pm

He is inadequate for BYu’s task ahead.

Archaea

Jan 10, 11:21pm

He is not as good as Bryant's junior year at BYU agreed. But better than his sop

johnnybyu

Jan 10, 11:24pm

As someone emphasized above Elijah played hurt that year

Archaea

Jan 10, 11:37pm

He was injured but Bryant didn't have the handles to be a big 12 pg. He was a

johnnybyu

Jan 10, 11:40pm

Bryant was a scorer - not a point guard.

Cougarbib

Jan 11, 2:19am

His ball-handling is easily better than all four of those guys. Whiting included (whose handles were poor for a PG).

SinkingQuffa

Jan 10, 11:38pm

Anson Winder, LoL. There is an example right there of a guy that took a while

Cougarbib

Jan 11, 2:17am

After this comment I fully understand you are trolling

stoils

Jan 11, 7:24am

TJ is pretty under rated as was E. Bryant. Don’t mean to bag on Hall at all but

ledfoot

Jan 10, 11:43pm

TJ was great but would have been broken in half and Bryant didn't have great

johnnybyu

Jan 10, 11:49pm

I think TJ was pretty over-rated by much of our fanbase. He was very good, but had plenty of weaknesses to exploit.

SinkingQuffa

Jan 10, 11:52pm

Not a TJ “fan boy” at all but he won me over his last couple years. We’ll see

ledfoot

Jan 10, 11:56pm

Like I said, TJ was very good — as both a player & PG. He had a lot of up-n-downs in his career

SinkingQuffa

Jan 12, 1:24am

At least TJ was a point guard. Elijah was not.

Cougarbib

Jan 11, 2:21am

You are correct from the state of Utah. Plenty of really good Freshman

gp232

Jan 10, 11:39pm

Elijah at point? And u keep belittling guys as not being Big 12 Calibur while

Cougarbib

Jan 11, 2:09am

Elijah has played pro ball. Hall will not.

Archaea

Jan 11, 3:00pm

Point guard? Why do you continue to compare peaches to plums?

Cougarbib

Jan 11, 4:04pm

He handled the ball a lot and PG is a bit of a misnomer

Archaea

Jan 11, 9:41pm

If PG was a misnomer, we would not be having this discussion. We have a ton of

Cougarbib

Jan 12, 6:40am

I think Hall could be that guy

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