Having no marquee brands is an advantage. But it's also a disadvantage

Jul 7, 2022
8:36:26am

krindorr Intervention Needed

In a lot of ways it's a sign of how messed up things have gotten that the best Big 12 sales pitch is

"Come join us! We don't have any teams good enough to go anywhere else!"

and yet, that is a very real selling point

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krindorr

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CONFIRMATION BIAS could kill the BIG12 just like it has the PAC. Nobody thought

canofpicante

7/7/22 8:20am

But Swaim and PK.

WDaddy

7/7/22 8:22am

I hope they are right. I really hope.

canofpicante

7/7/22 8:25am

Sure, it's just a rumor, but PK rarely shares rumors and loves the Pac

Sock Gnome

7/7/22 8:35am

Agree 100%. I have posted about this on CB. Most want to discount the

BlooCoog

7/7/22 8:23am

Whatever. Swaim and PK already confirmed it. That’s as good as official.

WDaddy

7/7/22 8:24am

True. Seems extremely unlikely though when you look at everything

TNT

7/7/22 8:24am

The fact XII Extends East will help in the future with bias

SouthernBlueBlood

7/7/22 8:23am

The Big12's advantage is that it has ZERO prima dona/blue bloods left in it

jrifkin48

7/7/22 8:24am

I get it. We want to believe that those things can’t be overlooked.

canofpicante

7/7/22 8:26am

That’s a very passive aggressive response. It would be great to have a BB but

SouthernBlueBlood

7/7/22 8:28am

I’m trying to be as direct as possible. Personally, I think money

canofpicante

7/7/22 8:32am

But BYU knows they arent a good fit in the P12. Sure, there would be a honeymoon phase where everyone gets along, but 3

HarlemCoug

7/7/22 8:51am

Honestly, I don't believe they would be

krindorr

7/7/22 10:30am

You are much more optimistic about the decision makers in our universities than i am

HarlemCoug

7/7/22 10:42am

You’re suffering from confirmation bias about us having confirmation bias.

Junior Deputy

7/7/22 8:40am

😂 I want PAC12 schools to join the BIG12 too.

canofpicante

7/7/22 10:14am

Having no marquee brands is an advantage. But it's also a disadvantage

krindorr

7/7/22 8:36am

That's not true, I brought up B1G poaching those schools last year

TheRowdy

7/7/22 8:24am

Not true for everyone. Absolutely. Some are more open-minded than others.

canofpicante

7/7/22 8:27am

People outside the PAC12 were certainly ringing those alarm bells

krindorr

7/7/22 8:39am

The difference is that the PAC 10 sans USC and UCLA has less value than the New Big 12.

Adrielle

7/7/22 8:26am

Not with the addition of the 6 best BIG12 teams. Lemme know if you want sources

canofpicante

7/7/22 8:28am

In the world of show me it becomes a stronger negotiating point if what is in your hand is stronger.

DJROSS

7/7/22 11:06am

I agree with what you’re saying. BUT It’s also what we WANT to believe. And that

canofpicante

7/7/22 11:40am

I have no say in the matter, so my confirmation bias doesn't move the needle.

Benfica1

7/7/22 8:27am

Few believe that Baylor (and its rape culuture) would ever br admitted by the woke Pac12 presidents. And if they

HarlemCoug

7/7/22 8:28am

That’s one school. I agree.

canofpicante

7/7/22 8:29am

I'm not sure Baylor is a worthwhile add, even aside from all that

krindorr

7/7/22 8:48am

No one wants Kansas so they’re stuck. We all are and I’m cool with it.

Turnpike Lane

7/7/22 8:33am

Currently the BIG XII payout is more than the PAC X payout and will have further

BYU Grounds

7/7/22 8:57am

Again, sources say PAC12 with no USC/UCLA but with UO, UW, and added BIG12 teams

canofpicante

7/7/22 9:05am

But why jump for similar $$$?

TheRowdy

7/7/22 9:10am

Money similar. Academics way better. Big names/reputation better with

canofpicante

7/7/22 10:08am

The whole academics are way better is being oversold. We are talking football and the entertainment value. Academics has

DJROSS

7/7/22 10:55am

Yeah, but decisions are made by University Presidents, not Athletic Directors

krindorr

7/7/22 11:00am

You asked why. So I some reasons. I probably agree that the BIG12 is in a

canofpicante

7/7/22 11:44am

"We" does that really matter since "We" are not making these decisions?

DJROSS

7/7/22 11:53am

None of our (CBers) opinions mean much at all. Yet here we are.

canofpicante

7/7/22 12:01pm

That is why I steer clear of using Us and We in such conversations.

DJROSS

7/7/22 12:11pm

I thought it was intuitive

canofpicante

7/7/22 2:54pm

Payouts get complicated when you consider all the factors

krindorr

7/7/22 10:38am

You must also consider how many of the current teams in the Big XII were those spurned by the PAC12 when all they wanted

DJROSS

7/7/22 9:04am

This is a different situation than last year with different motivations.

canofpicante

7/7/22 9:27am

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