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GeraldGarner

Previous username: CandlandCoug
Bio page: GeraldGarner
Joined: Sep 12, 2013
Last login: Sep 19, 2024
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This has always been my issue with Tuiaki's defense:

nephicoug All-American

9/21/21 8:00am

Here's a visualization of BYU's trend in Total Havoc over the years:

nephicoug

9/21/21 8:02am

In fairness, FBS independents historically are bad at creating havoc. It’s just

DieHarder

9/21/21 8:04am

What is Havoc?

violetjazz

9/21/21 8:02am

Read this article:

nephicoug

9/21/21 8:03am

So…a big component is stealing offensive playcalling? That’s unfortunate.

maizecoug

9/21/21 8:11am

Lesser known X-man. Bother of Cyclops. Power to absorb ambient cosmic energy

Sir_Ten

9/21/21 8:06am

RE: What is Havoc?

mm73

9/21/21 12:42pm

A new mutant superhero?

scott715

9/21/21 1:45pm

A new strain of COVID?

ArcticKat

9/21/21 1:54pm

2018? This defense is not the D from 2018. I would wager that we aren't in that corner this year.

RoaroftheCougartails

9/21/21 8:03am

We aren't. We are much improved this year. Like I said, Kalani has said in interviews that they are focused on producing

nephicoug

9/21/21 8:04am

6 forced turnovers this year through 3 games… although one goes to the offense;)

Powerbait DPM

9/21/21 8:08am

The current strategy gives away yards, field position, and momentum. Importantly

Bluedomination

9/21/21 8:05am

Remember Bronco's "total disruption" mantra when he first came here as DC?

shoganai

9/21/21 8:06am

Ziggy only started like 4 games, right?

4thand19

9/21/21 9:27am

You're half right.

CougarThug

9/21/21 11:33am

A lot of that is not having the horses in the secondary to be able to create

SUAVO

9/21/21 8:07am

He had to have more horses at BYU than he did and NM?

Blue for Life

9/21/21 10:37am

NM?

SUAVO

9/21/21 10:45am

New Mexico, guess it is UNM? Sorry

Blue for Life

9/21/21 11:55am

He coached at New Mexico?

SUAVO

9/21/21 2:34pm

Yea Bronco did, he was the DC there. They brought him up and I was replying to

Blue for Life

9/21/21 3:11pm

Lol. You use a chart but not from this year, last year, or the year before that

Blueto

9/21/21 8:09am

The last one that was available. I wouldn't count last year considering who we played.

nephicoug

9/21/21 8:17am

Last year when we played 12 D1 teams? I bet you would have counted it if we

Blueto

9/21/21 8:24am

Most of those teams are teams we'll probably never play again - that we only played because it's all we could get

nephicoug

9/21/21 8:26am

Ok, here you go. BYU had 117 havoc plays out of 793 total defensive plays, or 14.8% - below the national average

nephicoug

9/21/21 8:29am

Um, Houston and UCF are literally joining the B12 with us. BSU and SDSU are

Blueto

9/21/21 9:35am

My issue with Yners that fail to see that Tuiaki has defenses ranked higher than

Cougarbib

9/21/21 10:29am

Nephicoug isn't wrong though.

dwhitebud

9/21/21 10:35am

He finds a way to get it done every year and nearly every game. It depends on

Cougarbib

9/21/21 10:38am

He has done a great job the last 3 years.

dwhitebud

9/21/21 10:40am

Last year was a Top 10 defense.

Cougarbib

9/21/21 12:58pm

Seriously?

DocIzzy

9/21/21 10:34am

Did somebody say Karl Havoc?!

HotspurCoug

9/21/21 11:05am

He drops 8 and lets the offense make its own mistakes

GeraldGarner

9/21/21 11:19am

LoL. 6 or 7 yards every carry. Our defense has worked well against almost every

Cougarbib

9/21/21 1:06pm

Happy to revisit this after we play a good team

GeraldGarner

9/21/21 1:28pm

Our offense sputters away entire quarters. You might notice that the more

Cougarbib

9/26/21 2:12am

Shocker. We might not go undefeated. Fire everyone. BTW. USC was struggling vs

Cougarbib

9/26/21 2:13am

You’re looking silly right now, my guy

GeraldGarner

9/25/21 11:15pm

Silly about which part? Our defense has a job. Allow 24 points or less. They

Cougarbib

9/26/21 2:07am

PS. BYU got much higher yards per play than USF. Wrubel indicated USF back

Cougarbib

9/26/21 2:09am

Yikes 😳

GeraldGarner

10/16/21 7:38pm

Utah game is evidence of deeper talent and evolution of our DC

BYUgoslav

9/21/21 11:24am

Seems like a strange time air a beef about Tuiaki’s defense.

WaybackCougar

9/21/21 11:46am

It's not a beef. It WAS a beef. If you look at my other posts on havoc today, we've actually IMPROVED quite a bit in

nephicoug

9/21/21 1:11pm

We were Top 10 defense in 2020. Not a uite top 30 right now. I know. SOS. But,

Cougarbib

9/21/21 1:30pm

Who even cares if they keep points off the board. No one!

byucougs9

9/21/21 12:41pm

Good argument to make, right after a game where we got 4 turnovers... ...

here's to hoping

9/21/21 1:32pm

Special teams got 1 of those turnovers. Our offense got another of those, but

Cougarbib

9/21/21 1:37pm

Those TOs prove my argument. My argument is that BYU is getting much better at creating Havoc

nephicoug

9/21/21 2:12pm

Maybe something about getting better should be included in your OP, instead of

here's to hoping

9/21/21 3:04pm

There had been some other threads about it previously and I followed up on this thread with other posts about our

nephicoug

9/21/21 3:24pm

Yes. Allgeier and Hall created Havoc and after Hall turned it over they got

Cougarbib

9/21/21 4:23pm

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