believe me when I told him that Utah wouldn't even schedule Utah State anymore whereas BYU played them every year. He had to look it up and was stunned when he confirmed there were no Utah/Utah State games on the schedule going forward.
To his credit when he learned that he changed his tune somewhat about BYU whereas I think a lot of people in his shoes have a hard time rewiring their anti-BYU narrative even when they are presented with new evidence.