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Aug 14, 2017
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WaybackCougar
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RE: Won't take five years to see results
I agree. I think we'll see results sooner. But I do think we'll need five years of statistics to make a fair comparison between the coaching methods.
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Improvements in practice
Steely_Don
8/9/17 7:31pm
Great post. Nominated. Everyone should read.
Quacker
8/9/17 7:44pm
Rack him
Unibro
8/10/17 7:39am
Hmmmmmmmmm. I really didn't like Bronco but I'm not so sure
Gerald-DeGroot
8/9/17 7:45pm
With all these improvements, this team should go 15-0.
Y'zFan
8/9/17 8:18pm
Nah who needs more than 1 year plus I consider last years loss to Utah a win
franklyvulgar
8/9/17 8:22pm
Amen
Gerald-DeGroot
8/9/17 9:11pm
Sounds like a Ty Detmer versus Anae thing
Acorn
8/10/17 2:51am
This post aged well
4mack
3/5/18 12:04pm
But CB told me that good coaches yell a lot and "light up" players when they
Iman23
8/9/17 7:51pm
He said they yell, they just don't berate. They use it as a teaching moment...
icecougar
8/9/17 8:03pm
What are they yelling? "Hey, you have beautiful eyes?"
DirtyWater
8/9/17 8:06pm
There is still yelling and accountability or did I misread
franklyvulgar
8/9/17 8:06pm
3rd paragraph
Steely_Don
8/10/17 6:22am
This discussion has been held regarding our BB coach, who watches the
Rocketman
8/9/17 9:47pm
I totally agree.
Steely_Don
8/10/17 6:30am
I have a friend that played for Sitake at Utah. He told me the same thing that
Nat Gas Man
8/9/17 7:54pm
that explains a lot. Often times Utah wins in the rivalry came down to a few...
icecougar
8/9/17 8:05pm
I'm glad we have sitake but bronco never had a losing season
franklyvulgar
8/9/17 8:20pm
I was a Bronco apologist...
Steely_Don
8/10/17 6:36am
agreed
ColonelMustard
8/10/17 12:19pm
I'd bet my lunch most coaches break down film like this.
jensen46
8/9/17 9:20pm
actually I don't think so...it appears to be an Urban Meyer thing
Nat Gas Man
8/10/17 8:10am
I love the current staff. But according to one UVA fan, Bronco's methods
84 Grad
8/9/17 7:58pm
That's exactly what he did at BYU. But each season he expected more from
Freddie Cougar
8/10/17 4:55pm
"many teaching moments were missed and the confidence of many players was..."
icecougar
8/9/17 8:02pm
Yup
Steely_Don
8/10/17 6:44am
I'm pretty sure there is more to it than that.
StalwartBraveTrue
8/10/17 5:52pm
If you delete the middle three paragraphs, then this is much more believable.
Random Walk
8/9/17 8:04pm
<< Deleted >>
icecougar
8/9/17 8:05pm
Plenty of other examples
Steely_Don
8/10/17 6:56am
I think that you're seeing what you want to see.
Random Walk
8/10/17 8:53am
what about takitaki saying kalani cares more about the players than bronco?
District
8/10/17 12:07pm
Takitaki did not say that...
Random Walk
8/10/17 1:17pm
"Takes care of us more"
District
8/10/17 1:24pm
"Takes care of us more" is not "Kalani cares more about the players"
Random Walk
8/10/17 1:34pm
Whatever dude. Between the OP,takitaki, and other observations it's clear
District
8/10/17 2:18pm
Now you're onto something that I can agree with...
Random Walk
8/10/17 4:12pm
Why wouldn't Burt tell Bronco he had eye problems? Seems kinda career limiting on his part.
RSLCoug
8/9/17 8:04pm
he couldn't get a word in edge-wise from all the yelling and berating...
icecougar
8/9/17 8:06pm
It was the noise from the flywheel spinning.
russkiejedi
8/9/17 8:12pm
I was told by a former player that Bronco had an open door policy for his
Bullrider
8/10/17 4:00pm
But did Burt feel Bronco was approachable?
icecougar
8/11/17 8:57pm
Sure he did, he knew the policy.
Bullrider
8/11/17 10:03pm
Approachability
TriggerWarning
8/9/17 8:14pm
Spot on.
cdr88
8/10/17 1:53pm
Ha
Steely_Don
8/10/17 7:00am
From what I read, Burt didn't even realize
bluegato
8/10/17 8:15am
RE: From what I read, Burt didn't even realize
SMRT
8/10/17 4:13pm
Hippo!
cougaman
8/10/17 4:59pm
I wonder if that's why certain players, like Hine, didn't seem to develop well
Run-DMT
8/9/17 8:05pm
Hopefully it means fewer missed tackles. That is one thing that bugged me about
cougaman
8/9/17 8:05pm
Bronco coached the best defenses in BYU history.
Random Walk
8/9/17 8:07pm
They had talented QB's, they just couldn't develop them as passers
icecougar
8/9/17 8:09pm
I think it was more the lack of offensive identity mixed with the merry-go-round
Random Walk
8/9/17 8:14pm
It's hard to say if Munns and Lark were overrated, they never got much of a...
icecougar
8/10/17 2:16am
I generally like Bronco, and think he was a great defensive coordinator. I was
cougaman
8/9/17 8:14pm
I'm just saying that there were bigger issues than tackling during the Bronco
Random Walk
8/9/17 8:17pm
This is just the one that I noticed the most as someone who never really played
cougaman
8/9/17 8:20pm
I've read him say he doesn't teach and expects players to already know the...
icecougar
8/10/17 2:37am
amen. basics that Bronco said they don't practice...
icecougar
8/9/17 8:08pm
My friend who is a player on the team told me "Something is off" with
coolblue
8/9/17 8:07pm
was off or is off?
84 Grad
8/9/17 8:10pm
"is off"
coolblue
8/9/17 8:11pm
Please do go on...
MaxxPower
8/9/17 8:16pm
I'll leave it at that for now. There was more.
coolblue
8/9/17 9:39pm
Please, throw something inflammatory out like that and then don't say anything?
RaggaeCoug
8/10/17 8:23am
They work TOO HARD, they like winning TOO MUCH, they recruit TOO WELL
Backcountry
8/10/17 2:34am
Always got to take things like this, even when legit with a grain of salt.
rtNelson
8/10/17 4:26am
Can we move on from Bronco, don't like the guy......but it's history, let it go
chirocoug
8/9/17 8:12pm
Wasn't this a post about how the team is moving on from Bronco?
RSLCoug
8/9/17 8:18pm
Good point. I am a big anti Bronco. Felt he held the program back
chirocoug
8/9/17 8:30pm
Agreed. Kalani = Lavell Guy, BYU Football. Bronco = Grit Weirdo
Honor Code
8/10/17 5:17am
Because he wouldn't be in your Hashimoto ad?
OneUpper
8/9/17 8:24pm
Clever...
crazY
8/9/17 8:35pm
Wait, CB told me that Bronco wasnt engaged and fiery?
BYUfan92
8/9/17 8:19pm
Thank you for this post, but color me a bit skeptical
Adrielle
8/9/17 8:20pm
Some technique was taught, I'm sure.
Steely_Don
8/10/17 7:10am
Here's the thing
shakarocks
8/10/17 7:23am
Two different ways to do the same thing
shakarocks
8/9/17 8:28pm
Perhaps.
Steely_Don
8/10/17 7:12am
That is what it comes down to
shakarocks
8/10/17 7:25am
Burt was playing as a freshman but he got injured...
Jericho
8/9/17 8:29pm
Not sure what you're getting at...
Steely_Don
8/10/17 7:13am
But he was blind! How could he have played football!?!?
rtNelson
8/10/17 4:30pm
Just seems like two different methods. Neither is wrong.
Mister P
8/9/17 8:40pm
Agreed except if what the OP said was true then was there a blind spot in Bronco's style and methods that led to
Adrielle
8/9/17 8:48pm
OP made some kind of bizarre claims about Burt, so there's
Jericho
8/9/17 9:07pm
This is the second time that I've read on CB about Burt getting a prescription visor..
Adrielle
8/9/17 9:09pm
Not talking about the visor
Jericho
8/9/17 9:13pm
My Burt anecdote was from Criddle
Steely_Don
8/10/17 7:15am
I have never met a coach that was universally loved
shakarocks
8/9/17 9:48pm
In general I agree with you. My statement was more of a hypothetical
Adrielle
8/9/17 9:54pm
Can we be done with the garbage about Burt not being able to see the gaps in the
Pretorian
8/9/17 9:01pm
If you have astigmatism they won't work
seco03
8/9/17 9:06pm
Plain contacts won't but toric contact lenses will. He may have something that
Malathion
8/9/17 9:32pm
I have no idea about Riley's condition. Only that there a lot of people who
seco03
8/9/17 9:36pm
Also false.
Conan
8/11/17 3:07pm
False.
Conan
8/11/17 3:06pm
Can you prove it wrong?
Lip Gallagher
8/9/17 9:07pm
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Cougazul
8/9/17 9:29pm
Can you prove it's absurd? Honestly asking.
Lip Gallagher
8/9/17 9:35pm
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Cougazul
8/9/17 9:47pm
That part did sound weird.
Lip Gallagher
8/9/17 9:53pm
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Cougazul
8/9/17 10:02pm
Must have been a slow day at CB!
Steely_Don
8/10/17 7:29am
But, but but, Sitake invented the prescription visor!!!
thejimmer
8/9/17 9:46pm
Prescription visor portion is legit. So is my source.
Steely_Don
8/11/17 5:39am
this means absolutely nothing if they don't win on the field
Sale
8/9/17 9:06pm
But this is what we talk about until they get in games.
Squire
8/9/17 9:28pm
Beating Arizona, Toledo, Michigan State and Mississippi State
bigjohn
8/9/17 10:57pm
agreed, but you have to attribute some of that success to the prior regime
Sale
8/9/17 11:37pm
Very true.
Steely_Don
8/10/17 7:34am
It would be great if the Bronco comparisons died. He did good things and moved
JamesWestfall
8/9/17 10:09pm
I blame the team nutritionist
Thunder Buddy
8/9/17 10:39pm
This. Clearly skimping on the carrots.
russkiejedi
8/10/17 6:11am
POTDs losing their luster.
coug10278
8/9/17 11:39pm
We talkin' about PRACTICE!!!
Run-DMT
8/10/17 1:30am
Not the game!
Steely_Don
8/10/17 7:37am
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Cougazul
8/10/17 9:12am
I don't know anything about practices now but I observed several under Bronco
cougar_chick1
8/10/17 8:35am
The ball on a stick thing is a common football drill
shakarocks
8/10/17 8:47am
Mistaken about Bronco not using Burt.
Gorum the Old
8/10/17 8:36am
Those darn superlatives.
Steely_Don
8/11/17 5:48am
Bronco didn't exactly move Burt.
slatecoug
8/11/17 9:38am
Since we now know there is no such thing as a prescription visor, how much
coolblue
8/10/17 8:39am
None, to my knowledge.
Steely_Don
8/11/17 5:55am
You see what you want to see. You hear what you want to hear.
mtnKat
8/10/17 11:54am
No one said anything about emotional trauma
District
8/10/17 12:13pm
Yeah, they're football players.
Steely_Don
8/11/17 6:41am
Many effective ways to practice
Lemmonhead
8/10/17 1:26pm
Great points.
Steely_Don
8/11/17 6:48am
It's all academic right now.
WaybackCougar
8/10/17 5:59pm
Summer = speculation
Steely_Don
8/11/17 6:51am
Won't take five years to see results
Heinz57
8/12/17 9:00pm
RE: Won't take five years to see results
WaybackCougar
8/14/17 11:09am
Your buddy picked up on all this as a freshman helping BYU coaches? He's really
(Private)
8/10/17 6:49pm
He's a sharp kid.
Steely_Don
8/11/17 6:52am
This says it all...
Heinz57
8/12/17 8:57pm
Your friend doesn't know JACK apparently. Like less than zero.
pink22
11/21/17 11:46am
Funny how Iman's sarcastic response might have been the most insightful
Bob Vance
3/5/18 2:58pm
The thing I struggle with here is that it just sounds well written to shed a
Idahofallsblue
8/14/18 7:59pm
I come here from the future. This is all mostly true.
idacoug
5/6/20 9:14pm
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