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Jan 28, 2015
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Hoosier Coug
Negotiation tactic by the Big 12 to gain leverage in talks with TCU, WVU, etc.
The BYU card flapping in the wind was a convenient piece of leverage for them. Both teams came into the conference with seats at the kids' table.
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"But,but,but, the Big12 was unstable." How was the worst amount of instability
Iman23
1/28/15 11:29am
I remember it being very unstable at the time
idacoug
1/28/15 11:30am
I can. Just get in. Worst that could have happened is we just go independent
LiveCoug
1/28/15 11:35am
This makes no sense. Without TX and OK, you might as
Bostonblue
1/28/15 11:40am
Right, if the remainder of the Big 12 gets left in the cold, then
LiveCoug
1/28/15 11:42am
Yeah, that sends a great message about Indy.
Bostonblue
1/28/15 11:45am
I feel like you aren't getting what I am saying.
LiveCoug
1/28/15 11:48am
Really? I wouldn't mind being in a conference with Oklahoma State, Texas Tech
Windward_Coug
1/28/15 11:46am
I'm not saying its the worst thing in the world either. I'm
Bostonblue
1/28/15 11:53am
Yep. If BYU did in fact hesitate it would further prove how out of touch
swingcat
1/28/15 11:42am
Never offered = CYA
Bonoman
1/28/15 11:44am
I think the fiasco of the Mtn. channel was still fresh in their minds
morningcalmcougar
1/29/15 5:22am
RE: I can. Just get in. Worst that could have happened is we just go independent
Superman21
1/28/15 5:03pm
I can instability meant an opportunity for BYU and they didn't take it.
johnnybyu
1/28/15 12:04pm
I'll take Made-Up Scenarios Taken As Fact for 500 Alex.
darkcoug
1/28/15 11:32am
BYU would not have been able to go Indy if we have given a grant of
Bostonblue
1/28/15 11:33am
IIRC, the B12 grant of rights wasn't signed til TX and OU were back in the fold
silk
1/28/15 11:36am
Right. But you don't join the Big12 unless
Bostonblue
1/28/15 11:39am
right, but you wouldn't have had to sign the grant of rights if UT and OU
LiveCoug
1/28/15 11:42am
Without UT and OK, the Big12 would have gone the way
Bostonblue
1/28/15 11:44am
...and BYU would be forced to go back to independence.
swingcat
1/28/15 11:44am
and makes us look desperate
Bostonblue
1/28/15 11:46am
In contrast to BYU's current situation?
swingcat
1/28/15 11:47am
Have you seen our schedules coming up?
Bostonblue
1/28/15 11:55am
This is not true BYU would have been more valuable after going to the Big 12.
johnnybyu
1/28/15 12:07pm
We would not have been able to go indy due to a grant of rights.
Bostonblue
1/28/15 1:31pm
The grant of rights was only signed to keep OU and UT, so if we had signed
LiveCoug
1/28/15 1:59pm
Not so. TX and OU could easily have paid whatever exit penalty
Bostonblue
1/28/15 2:13pm
Ya, because we don't look desperate now.
Superman21
1/28/15 5:05pm
Just because you are desperate, does not mean BYU is.
Bostonblue
1/28/15 5:09pm
Just because BYU is not desperate does not mean they don't look desperate.
Superman21
1/28/15 6:07pm
I never said that I would not want to be in the Big 12 as it
Bostonblue
1/28/15 7:33pm
Or be stuck in a league with Baylor, TT, KSU, Kansas, etc...
swingcat
1/28/15 11:47am
My bet is that any above average teams that remained
Bostonblue
1/28/15 11:49am
The enormous payouts from the Texahoma 4 would have been a nice nest egg
jrj84105
1/28/15 2:05pm
We didn't balk because of instability, we just never got the invite
BYUCougarsFan
1/28/15 11:33am
right, but assuming you're married, did you ask before you knew the answer?
palangi
1/28/15 11:45am
The answer from BYU would have been yes.
BYUCougarsFan
1/28/15 11:46am
without any guarantees from OU and Texas? I strongly disagree, BYU was loving
palangi
1/28/15 11:53am
Regardless of circumstances...BYU misplayed the opportunity and ......
Bonoman
1/28/15 11:40am
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deckard667
1/28/15 12:05pm
Agreed thing would look at lot of different if BYU would have beat Utah 3 of the
johnnybyu
1/28/15 12:26pm
The instate comparison with Utah is only amplifying that decision four years ago
Bonoman
1/28/15 12:45pm
Remember, at that time teams that were jumping conferences
Justinodhan
1/28/15 11:55am
"media conversations"?
Hoosier Coug
1/28/15 11:57am
media outlets we saying we were on the list to join the big 12
Justinodhan
1/28/15 12:00pm
Negotiation tactic by the Big 12 to gain leverage in talks with TCU, WVU, etc.
Hoosier Coug
1/28/15 12:45pm
Agree BYU should have looked at the instability as an opportunity not an issue
johnnybyu
1/28/15 12:02pm
"It was ours for the taking" - not true at all.
NewMexiCoug
1/28/15 12:20pm
move em to Saturday or Monday...that was easy, the entire NCAA did it for BYU
palangi
1/28/15 12:32pm
Sorry but the NCAA has done nothing at all for BYU. How often have they
NewMexiCoug
1/28/15 5:17pm
what NCAA championship is played on Sunday? they're all moved. tv revenue from
palangi
1/29/15 7:41am
Women's BBall semifinals are on Sunday, the Women's Soccer Final,
NewMexiCoug
2/2/15 6:59pm
This is pathetic, if it is remotely true you're crying over spilt milk....
PoopTown LLC
1/28/15 2:16pm
Would you have been happy in a conference with Iowa State, Baylor, and TX Tech?
mogelijk
1/28/15 2:29pm
Ha... "The BYU Barnum and Bailey's"
bluegato
1/28/15 2:36pm
Big 12? Reality is that still no one likes or trusts Texas.
BridgersCache
1/28/15 3:42pm
Arkansas, A&M, Mizzou, Nebraska, Buffs. and Utes
BridgersCache
1/28/15 5:51pm
If only we could see the future
Bleeding Blue
1/28/15 4:48pm
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