That's undoubtedly true but calls for us to reassess the wisdom of pouring money

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Mar 15, 2025
12:11:36am

Jasbo Playmaker

That's undoubtedly true but calls for us to reassess the wisdom of pouring money

out to get freshmen one-and-done players. Why not put the money on highly likely future NBA players who aren't quite good enough to be drafted after one year.

Neither Catchings nor Demin have any ROI for us. May be great pros someday but wasted investment for NIL spent.

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Jasbo

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Hot take: Demin has never been that good

Yorpits8me

Mar 14, 7:49pm

I have to squint to see the potential.

Madam Pattirini

Mar 14, 7:51pm

You should go look at most of our greats’ freshman numbers.

WP17

Mar 14, 10:30pm

That's undoubtedly true but calls for us to reassess the wisdom of pouring money

Jasbo

Mar 15, 12:11am

Yeah, this year has been a total waste. Lol.

dfudge

Mar 15, 12:22am

Haha this is one of the dumbest takes I’ve ever seen on cougarboard. Our starting PG who scores 9 ppg has zero ROI

WP17

Mar 15, 12:26am

Why is he number one in plus minus in conference games?

kimdaddy35

Mar 14, 7:51pm

Because he plays a lot of minutes with Saunders and Keita. +/- isn’t a real

fredgarvin

Mar 14, 8:02pm

So…he’s a key part of our best lineups…

arcawley

Mar 14, 8:10pm

The rest of the lineup is good enough to overcome his turnovers & poor shooting

fredgarvin

Mar 14, 8:14pm

Or…he’s a valuable facilitator and an underrated defender with his length

arcawley

Mar 14, 8:20pm

That's funny because his number is better than theirs. It makes no sense.

kimdaddy35

Mar 14, 11:10pm

LeBron's +/- this year is -26. You think the Lakers are better without him?

fredgarvin

Mar 15, 12:00am

Number of NBA games makes that a hard comparison to make imo

arcawley

Mar 15, 12:11am

Then wouldn't an individual's +/- mean even less in fewer games played?

fredgarvin

Mar 15, 12:14am

That is not what I am telling you, that is what the numbers are proving to you.

kimdaddy35

Mar 15, 11:40am

You have to be able to shoot to survive in today’s NBA or

arizonacougarfan

Mar 14, 7:52pm

The shot will come along and his passing is an elite skill

arcawley

Mar 14, 8:22pm

His vision is elite but his passing is often lazy and leads to turnovers

gmj81

Mar 14, 10:09pm

Yes, his shooting will likely improve, but not because we say it will. I remember CBers some years back saying that...

Brisco

Mar 15, 12:48am

Demin’s biggest weakness with his shot is his shot selection. He has a nice

OKchief

Mar 15, 1:02am

This 100%.

dfudge

Mar 15, 8:59am

Wait til hes passing to bigs on a short roll that can do something with the ball

GfB

Mar 14, 7:54pm

Yeah, okay. You think +.500 ball in the Big12 was possible w/out him??

SinkingQuffa

Mar 14, 7:54pm

Pretty sure he didn’t say that at all

maxpowers

Mar 14, 8:09pm

He didn't. But I think the negativity needed to be qualified a bit.

SinkingQuffa

Mar 14, 8:12pm

Were I his dad, I'd have him return next yr to BYU & develop strength, shooting

Forzaitalia

Mar 14, 7:55pm

You're right. He'll go the G league and that's tough coming back from

Crazy Joe Davola

Mar 14, 7:56pm

Whatever… turning down/ delaying literally millions is such a good plan. Risk

NYC and Japan

Mar 14, 8:28pm

He will get millions next yr thru NIL & be a top 1% earner as a 19 yr old & BYU

Forzaitalia

Mar 14, 8:39pm

Sounds good until you weigh the risks doesn’t it? What if he gets hurt? What if

OKchief

Mar 14, 9:18pm

He's still a multi-millionnaire either way. He'll wash out of the G League if he

Forzaitalia

Mar 14, 11:40pm

Man, I wish the rest of us knew everything like you!!!! You have all the answers

OKchief

Mar 15, 12:07am

Stick to your 1 dimensional money maximation thinking with your kids if that's

Forzaitalia

Mar 15, 12:26am

You’re just thinking one dimensional as a fan

OKchief

Mar 15, 12:39am

Nah. You fail to realize it's 2025 not 2015, when I would have agreed w/you.

Forzaitalia

Mar 15, 2:09pm

Or go to the NBA and develop strength and shooting…

ochobeeguy

Mar 14, 10:54pm

Hall needs to start in the tourney. It's win or go home. The time for development is over.

Crazy Joe Davola

Mar 14, 7:56pm

Amen, amen, and amen

fan32

Mar 14, 8:10pm

I agree that hall needs to play more but I'm fine if we keep starting Egor and

gmj81

Mar 14, 10:12pm

These takes are bad. He is projected top 10 pick. He is the best passer per Fran

gp232

Mar 14, 7:56pm

Also per Franschilla he gets pushed around, isn't a great shooter & can't handle

Forzaitalia

Mar 14, 8:05pm

All things he will improve on in the pros. He’s 19 playing a completely style of

gp232

Mar 14, 8:23pm

Fran is wrong. Demin's not even first round anymore. Demin will stay.

Threw and Through

Mar 14, 8:08pm

Wrong on all three accounts. He’s a top-20 pick regardless

arcawley

Mar 14, 8:10pm

He literally said during the game he is years away from anything

1manwolfpack

Mar 14, 8:11pm

Yeah, Fran is wrong on all three accounts. Throwing a few good passes per game

Threw and Through

Mar 14, 8:20pm

NBA PG’s college PPG

arcawley

Mar 14, 8:26pm

So, you're saying you know more than Fran? What are your credentials?

CLCougar

Mar 14, 8:19pm

Yes, I think my credentials on this particular question are better than Fran's.

Threw and Through

Mar 14, 8:30pm

He is one of the top guys on European players. He knows everyone.

gp232

Mar 14, 8:39pm

Why aren't you out there making the big $$ with your superior knowledge then? This sounds Uncle Rico-ish

CLCougar

Mar 14, 8:41pm

T&T that’s a clown post bro! Sorry CLCougar

gp232

Mar 14, 8:50pm

Bro, I wasn't challenging your creds, I was challenging T & T's. Are you saying T & T has creds

CLCougar

Mar 14, 8:55pm

My bad.

gp232

Mar 14, 8:56pm

Lol..I thought we were both defending Fran as superior to T & T then you came at me..all good

CLCougar

Mar 14, 8:58pm

I'm sure you know all about Uncle Rico, but you know nothing about me.

Threw and Through

Mar 14, 9:25pm

Incredible. You must be making the big bucks as an NBA scout, no?

Bluedarts

Mar 15, 12:06am

and Fran says he needs to develop, he is not ready for the NBA

Count Cougar

Mar 14, 9:32pm

Season averages: 5.5 assist per game, 3.0 turnovers per game.

Beest

Mar 14, 7:57pm

That's a terrible ratio. Ugh.

Crazy Joe Davola

Mar 14, 7:59pm

His dimes are not usual dimes, though. They're mercilessly good.

SinkingQuffa

Mar 14, 8:02pm

Hot take: Nobody turns on a player faster than BYU fans after a loss.

Ungoy

Mar 14, 8:02pm

Nah I've had this in me for a while now

Yorpits8me

Mar 14, 8:09pm

<< Deleted >>

Ungoy

Mar 14, 8:16pm

Couldn't wait to get it out there huh? Go back to yewtfans.net.

dfudge

Mar 14, 9:15pm

How noble and brave of you

Bluedarts

Mar 15, 12:06am

RE: How noble and brave of you

Yorpits8me

Mar 15, 2:04pm

Cool take: Kevin Young is playing Demin less for a reason. His good passes are

Threw and Through

Mar 14, 8:15pm

Nobody is turning on Egor. 2 things can be true at the same time: great

Forzaitalia

Mar 14, 8:21pm

Fans on here don’t seem to be lol

arcawley

Mar 14, 8:27pm

Yeah, go back and count all the posts that says he sucks. There are a lot.

Bluedarts

Mar 15, 12:07am

Thanks for reminding me immediately why you should never go on CB after a loss

Mar 14, 8:04pm

You're welcome. Also, this has been on my mind for a bit. Even if we somehow

Yorpits8me

Mar 14, 8:10pm

lol. so you didn't have the guts to post it then and had to wait through the greatest 9 game stretch in the history

Mar 14, 8:33pm

As a freshman he’s been great

dixdog

Mar 14, 8:05pm

He's played like a FR when everyone expected him to dominate

Mitty

Mar 14, 8:12pm

I’ve been thinking the same all season TBH.

byuballstothewall

Mar 14, 8:17pm

Not hot take. Dallin is better in every facet of the game. Passing is probs same

BigBoyCoug

Mar 14, 8:18pm

OK coach.

StantonMac

Mar 14, 8:21pm

This is a perfectly controversial post

DreamerCoug

Mar 14, 8:22pm

When he is man-handled, he's not that great because he is still a young man,

Archaea

Mar 14, 8:25pm

This is the coldest hot take of the last 3 months. Loads here have been saying

CougaRR4L

Mar 14, 8:29pm

Demin has been very good. True he has struggled against certain teams

boorad

Mar 14, 8:30pm

It’s so funny when people on cougar board out themselves as idiots

KYU

Mar 14, 8:41pm

Big12 honorable mention and Frosh team, 1st round pick projection on every single draft board, freshman assist record.

LoyalToRoyal

Mar 14, 8:52pm

I guess you're right. We need you as our head coach. KY must not know what he's

AlexKnight

Mar 14, 9:32pm

You, my friend know nothing about basketball, nothing

coot20

Mar 14, 9:47pm

He's an elite rim finisher who doesn't often try to drive to the rim.

Mar 14, 10:08pm

These last two games the gameplan pretty much forbade that, I think.

SinkingQuffa

Mar 15, 12:23am

Man get this crap off the front page

EarlSpeak

Mar 14, 10:09pm

Couldn’t agree more…wasted NIL money to be sure. Need an elite point guard

SoggyBB

Mar 14, 10:45pm

Your argument(s) would have more validity if your subject line was more correct.

BYUHgrad

Mar 14, 10:48pm

He is also an 18yr old true freshman that hasn't played in a much more physical US league.

Mar 14, 11:02pm

He doesn’t pressure the defense when he has the ball. Very lax at top of key

jpal1397

Mar 15, 12:07am

Everyone who gave this POTD can go shove it. Unreal.

Bluedarts

Mar 15, 12:09am

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