To my knowledge there is no mandatory minimum jail time for aggravated assault

Dec 19, 2024
9:34:13pm

cougarfann888 Truly Addicted User

It could range from community service to years in prison. So what do you mean do the crime pay the time? We are talking about what an appropriate penalty would be within the confines of the law

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I’m sorry but I have to say something. Some of you on this board don’t seem to

ColonelMustard

Dec 19, 9:02pm

Well said.

ChiCityCoug

Dec 19, 9:05pm

Kid? Was it a 7 year old? I thought he was older than that.

BYUtka

Dec 19, 9:06pm

He’s an adult. Adults who assault people should face steep consequences. He’ll pay the consequence and he’ll be fine.

YIsForBrigham

Dec 19, 9:07pm

Consequences have one purpose. To produce a change of heart and a change of

RobDog

Dec 19, 9:19pm

Restitution and justice

YIsForBrigham

Dec 19, 9:23pm

I appreciate your perspective. Here’s another point of view

RobDog

Dec 19, 9:34pm

Interesting.

coolblue

6:56am

Consequences also serve as a deterrent to other committing similar crimes.

Ycrazy

Dec 19, 9:26pm

How many people do you think who might be I a similar situation in the future

cougarfann888

Dec 19, 9:31pm

Deterrence, punishment

wildeone

Dec 19, 9:47pm

Not so. The consequences are in place to pay a societal debt.

spoxjox

Dec 19, 10:04pm

I like the texting while driving analogy from OP. Everyone has done stupid

spidercoug

Dec 19, 9:20pm

Texting is not an act of malice chucking a water bottle is malicious

Ycrazy

Dec 19, 9:29pm

So texting while driving is perfectly safe and can't hurt anyone?

spidercoug

Dec 19, 9:32pm

No it is an act of negligence and should be prosecuted but you don’t start

Ycrazy

Dec 19, 9:37pm

Texting while driving is worse because the potential for life altering damage

fatcracker

Dec 19, 9:43pm

Following legal debates on CB is hilarious. What are we even talking about?

MarylandFan

2:10am

Let’s put it this way. Husband and wife two different scenarios. First husband is texting and causes an accident. Wife

JohnnyComeLately

12:08pm

That's not what he said.

Ghost of Peanut

Dec 19, 9:39pm

My point is both are stupid decisions that can hurt people.

spidercoug

Dec 19, 9:40pm

The whole point of throwing a water bottle into a crowd is trying to hit someone

ochobeeguy

Dec 19, 10:10pm

You think the over 100 people who threw things were all trying to hit someone? And they nearly all just happened to miss

HarlemCoug

Dec 19, 10:18pm

We penalize everyone who gets caught driving drunk, but we penalize people who

spoxjox

Dec 19, 10:21pm

Agreed

HarlemCoug

Dec 19, 10:28pm

I think you are infering intent that you can't possibly know.

NonmormonYfan89

9:06am

Yep. Exactly. He’s 18, a legal adult. Not a “kid” any more.

lightmann

Dec 19, 9:48pm

But, come on, he is still a kid. Mentally, his brain has quite a long way to go

cougsareforreal

4:25am

Seriously? Tell me, why do we let 18-year-old children with undeveloped brains

spoxjox

9:03am

Because they are much more likely to be paying taxes at 18 and it feels wrong to have them paying taxes without a chance

HarlemCoug

12:19pm

Because it "feels wrong"? That's your decision criterion. How old are you?

spoxjox

1:03pm

My 14-year-old worked at Dairy Queen for years. I guess he should have been able

spoxjox

1:07pm

I care more about the lesson being learned by anyone who may consider

CougarCanuck76

Dec 19, 9:10pm

Agreed

ColonelMustard

Dec 19, 9:13pm

If he was a "good kid" why was he cheering for the Yewts?

BYUtka

Dec 19, 9:16pm

Solid point - I'll have to reconsider my stance.

HarlemCoug

Dec 19, 9:18pm

RE: If he was a "good kid" why was he cheering for the Yewts?

RalphWiggam

Dec 19, 9:24pm

Maybe a good kid, who knows? Maybe he's gotten away with the same behavior many times before. He'll probably get what

ManicBlue

Dec 19, 9:16pm

I think the line of thinking that this could ruin his life is exaggerated. Maybe

YbeatsU

Dec 19, 9:23pm

RE: I’m sorry but I have to say something. Some of you on this board

Russell Feathers

Dec 19, 9:12pm

So what if the victim died? Or was permanently injured? Still empathy a little

Ycrazy

Dec 19, 9:14pm

These threads aren't about that. Had she died, it changes things significantly. Jail time would be a must. It would be

HarlemCoug

Dec 19, 9:20pm

But why?! The kid saw others doing it? Who among us hasn't made mistakes?!

MarylandFan

2:12am

That's not what the OP said at all. Nothing in what he said has anything to do with the victim dying.

HarlemCoug

6:44am

You can’t really make the case for harsh punishment on those grounds because

garyfan

Dec 19, 9:34pm

Throw water bottle. Charge: attempted murder. Does seem a bit extreme.

Best Guess

Dec 19, 9:55pm

He’s only a lad. You really can’t blame him.

maizecoug

Dec 19, 9:17pm

Society made him. He’s our responsibility.

Cougar Jazz Fan

Dec 19, 9:27pm

Sung Danny Elfman several thousand times.

DazeofBlue

Dec 19, 10:39pm

Is he, perhaps, a little bit confused?

Emmett Fitz-Hume

Dec 19, 11:05pm

Why does this even matter. No opinion on CB is going to change the outcome.

Tio

Dec 19, 9:23pm

Not mad but I’d like to think this board is better than 3 Utes in a basement.

DiamondMo

Dec 19, 10:25pm

He’s a Ute. Lock him up and throw the keys away.

shimmy

Dec 19, 9:25pm

I did worse things many times in my teens.

Covid-19

Dec 19, 9:27pm

I wasn't 18, but I did something much, much worse more than once.

Belboz

Dec 19, 9:38pm

No empathy here. He didn’t even turn himself in. His dad did.

DavisCoCoug

Dec 19, 9:29pm

Dad was a great example to his son.

Covid-19

Dec 19, 9:32pm

Dad tried to protect him and get out of stadium when confronted

Count Cougar

Dec 19, 9:59pm

RE: Dad was a great example to his son.

royalbluemenace

12:41am

To my knowledge there is no mandatory minimum jail time for aggravated assault

cougarfann888

Dec 19, 9:34pm

The dad likely turned him in with his son’s cooperation.

garyfan

Dec 19, 9:35pm

What is the appropriate “time” for unintended assault with a water bottle?

Soupie

Dec 19, 9:38pm

The article implied he was throwing the bottle at the cheerleaders, so he was

Ghost of Peanut

Dec 19, 9:42pm

“Implied?”

Soupie

Dec 19, 9:51pm

Meaning he wasn't just throwing it at the field and hadn't seen the cheerleaders

Ghost of Peanut

Dec 19, 9:53pm

Does it make a difference if the beverage was beer or Pepsi? It was

yahtzee

Dec 19, 10:24pm

The dad turned him in with the kid's permission. It was Sunday, you don't have your 18 year old call the cops without a

HarlemCoug

Dec 19, 9:46pm

You really think wealthy dude can't get his attorney to respond on Sunday?

Sid Vicious

12:08am

I think they spoke to a lawyer on the phone on Sunday and were advised to call the police and turn him in on Monday when

HarlemCoug

6:45am

Dad turned him in after they realized there was video evidence of where the bottle came from. Not saying it wasn’t hard,

BYU Tar Heel

6:36am

The kid will be fine. Good for him to learn a lesson. Any conviction thrown at him will be reasonable and he’ll recover

Haysom Till

Dec 19, 9:42pm

He was just a lil guy trying to buy some skittles.

Haysom Till

Dec 19, 9:44pm

Thanks. Give the kid a break.

Cswilliam01

Dec 19, 9:47pm

"Used the radio while driving" is akin to texting while driving? Wow.

Bob Vance

Dec 19, 9:51pm

If that is all it is then why is she pressing charges.

maYbe

Dec 19, 9:53pm

Medical bills including concussion treatments.

Soupie

Dec 19, 10:00pm

There will definitely be a civil suit and rightfully so. Seems pretty standard in a case like this. She has real claims

HarlemCoug

Dec 19, 10:02pm

I don't know her symptoms and if they'll last forever

Belboz

Dec 19, 10:36pm

Okay, Karen.

Mjolnir

Dec 19, 10:05pm

I’m not sure that means what you think it means

DiamondMo

Dec 19, 10:38pm

Ironic in that Colonial Mustard kills people with a wrench, rope and gun, etc.

Future_Tacos

Dec 19, 10:27pm

Obviously desensitized from being around all that killing

BYU Tar Heel

6:39am

Hahaha well played 😂

ColonelMustard

11:15am

Entitled rich kids should be

airbug

Dec 19, 10:59pm

While the outcomes could be similar or even worse, are you actually comparing

Emmett Fitz-Hume

Dec 19, 11:10pm

Could not agree more. I'm honestly stunned how many seem to be calling for

CougaRR4L

Dec 19, 11:11pm

Most of us feel exactly the same as you. I am glad the 👍 >>>>>👎. Well said.

JWin

Dec 19, 11:37pm

I agree we’ve all done stupid things

Blue Heart

Dec 19, 11:51pm

💯💯

USOblue

1:28am

Apology accepted.

cheezedawg

1:43am

"Not many of us have thrown water bottles at crowds.I get that."

MarylandFan

2:04am

He's 18

Mon

6:33am

💯

gww687

7:16am

This board treats so many things as zero sum. No gray areas in life. No mercy or grace.

Bonoman

7:55am

RE: I’m sorry but I have to say something. Some of you on this board

OldFogey

8:18am

I believe I have empathy. If I were in his situation I would feel absolutely

downtownchrisbrown

8:23am

I don't believe anyone in this thread suggested that empathy is trying to remove consequences. Empathy and justice are

unctoothman

8:26am

I’m sorry but those aren’t great comparisons

BYU'01

8:53am

Ya, I find it a little disheartening when I see people grabbing the pitchforks… but if it had been their son?..

NonmormonYfan89

9:01am

What if it had been your daughter, wife, sister?

downtownchrisbrown

11:30am

Criminal prison time does nothing to fix that situation. A civil suit

CougaRR4L

12:04pm

Dang beat me too it.

NonmormonYfan89

12:20pm

If that's the case, I’d suggest settling it civilly personally.

NonmormonYfan89

12:19pm

Empathy for 18 yr old yes. But not the U

Coug Dude

9:40am

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