That has nothing to do with it. How many yards did he have. What was his YPC?

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Dec 17, 2024
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Socrates Johnson

Previous username: jkccoug
Bio page: Socrates Johnson
Joined: Jul 19, 2002
Last login: Dec 17, 2024
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Ok, I'm gonna come out and let the elephant out in the room on Jeanty. We're all thinking this.

BIG XII Coug Unemployed BIG XII advisor

Dec 17, 12:25pm

Kind of a side note, but I'm really proud of my kids for recognizing how awful

benny1982

Dec 17, 12:29pm

My 15 year old daughter told her friend's dad in a Utah sweater that the ward party wasn't an ugly sweater contest. She

byuTX

Dec 17, 12:31pm

In the national guard, in the time after you enlist but before you go to

TheNerd

Dec 17, 12:41pm

Kid's a baller

BaylorBear

Dec 17, 4:29pm

How can you not? You look at it and it just repulses a normal person. It's

EM_Puma

Dec 17, 12:36pm

Imagine if Barry Sanders played a weak schedule with 14 games instead of 11 vs. better teams

byuTX

Dec 17, 12:29pm

and got a camouflage uni for his home field. Not unreasonable to think he would have racked up 3,000 maybe 4,000

BIG XII Coug

Dec 17, 12:31pm

It’s like catching a cheetah in the Serengeti. Put the cheetah in a Walmart

Fatalplacebo

Dec 17, 12:37pm

Here's a comparison between Jeanty and Sanders after Jeanty's and Sander's regular seasons

Greg Kite's 'stache

Dec 17, 12:34pm

Jeanty sat out the 2nd half of two games. Based on his carries I think Barry

citron

Dec 17, 12:38pm

Regardless-they have the exact same amount of carries after their respective regular season were over

Greg Kite's 'stache

Dec 17, 2:58pm

But you have no idea

BYU '80

Dec 17, 5:02pm

Except Jeanty wasn't running against Sanders. Both could win in their respective years.

Soupie

Dec 17, 2:29pm

But they didn’t both win. Sanders did. Jeanty didn’t.

Greg Kite's 'stache

Dec 17, 3:01pm

Barry beat 0-11 Kansas st, 0-10 Miami Ohio, 1-10 kansas. That one win for KU

citron

Dec 17, 12:35pm

Yes. But he never played USU. That’s cakewalk.

Fatalplacebo

Dec 17, 12:39pm

Correct. Jeanty didn't play after halftime in that one.

citron

Dec 17, 12:41pm

Overall still a much easier schedule for BSU

byuTX

Dec 17, 12:39pm

No, not really. Barry played 2 ranked teams during regular season. Lost both.

citron

Dec 17, 12:51pm

That has nothing to do with it. How many yards did he have. What was his YPC?

Socrates Johnson

Dec 17, 2:16pm

I didn't start this discussion on SOS.

citron

Dec 17, 3:56pm

Right but who won the game isn't the measure. it's how barry played.

Socrates Johnson

Dec 17, 4:20pm

My point was that he only played 2 ranked teams...this idea that he played a

citron

Dec 17, 4:38pm

So you look at the top end games and ignore the rest. Top to bottom

BYU '80

Dec 17, 5:03pm

Well if you actually followed the thread you would see I started at the bottom.

citron

Dec 17, 5:31pm

And two ranked teams. That leaves 5-6 other games including the bowl

BYU '80

Dec 17, 7:32pm

they did play an easy schedule. and jeanty has a MWC oline. people act like

FieroCoug

Dec 17, 12:40pm

Oline wasn’t really important. Teams he played don’t know how to tackle.

bluecougar1985

Dec 17, 12:43pm

His yards after contact is insane.

JuicyJam

Dec 17, 12:50pm

He went against the weakest D1 defenses in the country, except Oregon.

Mabuhay Coug

Dec 17, 4:40pm

except they stacked completely stacked the defenses against him.

FieroCoug

1:40am

And you know Sanders didn’t sit second halves at all?

BYU '80

Dec 17, 5:08pm

I never made that claim, but I do remember watching him in college and pro

Mabuhay Coug

Dec 17, 7:29pm

Jeanty is just Tyler Allgeier who stayed healthy

BYU Fan

Dec 17, 12:31pm

the dude has almost 2000 YAC. if it was easy, everyone would do it.

FieroCoug

Dec 17, 12:41pm

In a P4 conference, nobody (Jeanty, Sanders, any NFL RB) would do it.

bluecougar1985

Dec 17, 12:44pm

And they are tied in Heismans

byuTX

Dec 17, 1:02pm

Except for this fact. The Lone Star HS product is one of the most difficult players to tackle, setting College Football

airwolf

Dec 17, 1:08pm

Of course he is. He's literally invisible to start every play and then defenders just see a blur. Much harder to tackle

BIG XII Coug

Dec 17, 1:21pm

Was there a significant difference in his production home v. away?

WVU_Prof

Dec 17, 2:49pm

weak MWC is likely a bigger factor that the turf

Hill4Heisman

Dec 17, 1:20pm

Why does this never come up for teams that wear green? Is baylor camo'ed in Waco

NGB

Dec 17, 1:54pm

Or Tulane?

neboutefan

Dec 17, 2:34pm

Doubt it impacts the players but it sure messes with your eyes watching on TV. Difference w/ green is

Soupie

Dec 17, 2:39pm

Not buying it. I rejoice every time BYU plays BSU and wins, but I can see talent

BoiseBYU1

Dec 17, 2:24pm

Oregon St and Washington St were horrible on D. Oregon was his only good D

Mabuhay Coug

Dec 17, 4:44pm

Well, UNLV has the 20th best rushing defense and Jeanty ran for 128 (33)

BoiseBYU1

Dec 17, 8:28pm

UNLV was more a paper tiger.How many great offenses did they face in the MWC

Mabuhay Coug

8:55am

Washington st and Oregon st are g5. Boise State had a terrible schedule.

slccoug

Dec 17, 6:59pm

Boo hoo hoo.

coastcat

Dec 17, 3:08pm

You do realize the players aren’t looking at him from above like we are, right?

byuinva

Dec 17, 3:12pm

Thanks for coming out.

maweien

Dec 17, 3:25pm

I don't buy this.

Dwide_Schrude

Dec 17, 4:27pm

People actually really believe this nonsense?

CougStuckOnTheHill

Dec 17, 5:35pm

Are you sure it was an elephant? And where was it before?

StoneyCurtis

Dec 17, 6:00pm

Jeanty was the best player in college football this year, by far!

coot20

Dec 17, 7:37pm

Best RB, maybe. Best player was Hunter. He’s guaranteed a top 5 pick in the

slccoug

Dec 17, 7:45pm

There is absolutely no way that a player that is going to beat Barry Sanders

jaba166

Dec 17, 8:02pm

Bit over the top with dramatics but I do agree the Jeanty should have won IMO.

Soupie

Dec 17, 8:54pm

It's the actual objective data / numbers that are dramatic

jaba166

Dec 17, 8:56pm

Not the data I was referencing.

Soupie

6:42am

The criteria for voting for Heisman, is Best Player. Not most yardage.

slccoug

Dec 17, 9:04pm

RE: Ok, I'm gonna come out and let the elephant out in the room on Jeanty. We're

Str8CashCougar

Dec 17, 8:43pm

Yeah, and no one can see Michigan State and Marshall because there jerseys are

coventry94

Dec 17, 9:54pm

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