Interesting. In the book Saints, wasn’t there a mention of a traveler

Dec 17, 2024
8:57:31am

conetah All-American

Approaching BY before the salt lake valley and making a case to continue on to San Diego as it had been prepared.

Am I confusing my valleys? Was it San Francisco?

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POLL: If the Saints had settled in San Francisco in 1847, what would be the church membership and population of Utah today?

OU Cougar

8:33am

Didn’t they have the chance to settle San Diego and not San Francisco?

conetah

8:36am

Both. SD after the Mormon Battalion went there and SF after Samuel Brannan and others went there and were present for

SingleStrapBackpack

8:47am

Interesting. In the book Saints, wasn’t there a mention of a traveler

conetah

8:57am

Sam Brannan led a group of saints via voyage from New York around the tip of

LeGrandBleu

9:08am

San Francisco could still be called Yerba Buena.

reagan21

9:13am

Sam Brannan, California’s first millionaire.

Busting Coveys

9:21am

Imagine all the dodger fans here… having to be giants fans.

tyler durden

8:41am

That would definitely be the worst

LakeshowCougs

9:45am

Are we assuming that the prophet received revelation to settle in SD?

Yukon

9:01am

Good question. Church is a lot smaller if the Mormons ignore Brigham and settle

reddead

9:05am

As an exMormon... I have to say that Utah is probably better b/c of the church

reddead

9:03am

We’d be no different than Wyoming or Nevada.

Yukon

9:14am

I mean, it could also have turned out to be an outdoorsy paradise, like Vail or

reddead

9:44am

So a few small towns/cities like Jackson WY, West Yellowstone, Bend OR, etc.

Yukon

10:28am

Tell that to Hawaii, or Vegas (the driver of NV's economy)

reddead

10:36am

Who knows what would’ve happened in an alternate universe.

Yukon

1:40pm

Kennecott copper mine probably still happens. I’m sure the miners would have

OU Cougar

9:47am

For sure. I hear that Park City (originally mining) used to be pretty rough, too

reddead

9:57am

Utah would be essentially East Nevada

NGB

9:05am

Good point. Gambling and whores would have helped Utah develop a stable society

OU Cougar

9:49am

or West Colorado, without Church tamping down non LDS immigration would've followed CO's growth pattern

byujag

10:03am

Doubtful, the front range is only populated because people didn't cross

NGB

11:05am

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