So your argument is that if Oregon had lost to Wisconsin last week they would

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Nov 21, 2024
8:39:31am

tkh9 All-American

So your argument is that if Oregon had lost to Wisconsin last week they would

have dropped out of the top 12?

They didn’t so I have no issue with them remaining #1. I don’t even have a large issue with where the other 1-loss B1G teams are currently ranked but teams are not treated equally based on resume.

I’m sure you’ve seen this:

Team A: 9-1, No. 13 strength of record, best win vs. SP+ No. 12, loss to SP+ No. 84, 3 wins vs. bowl-eligible Power 4 teams

Team B: 9-1, No. 15 strength of record, best win vs. SP+ No. 46, loss to SP+ No. 5, 0 wins vs. bowl-eligible Power 4 teams

Team C: 9-1, No. 9 strength of record, best win vs. SP+ No. 22, loss to SP+ No. 55, 2 wins vs. bowl-eligible Power 4 teams

Team D: 9-1, No. 8 strength of record, best win vs. SP+ No. 13, loss to SP+ No. 42, 3 wins vs. bowl-eligible Power 4 teams

They're all in roughly the same demographic, sure, but if you're splitting hairs, it's hard not to split them in Team D's direction, right?

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I hate the CFP already and we haven’t even had a playoff yet. 🤷🏻‍♂️

ray ray

Nov 20, 9:46pm

College football will never have a postseason that gives everyone an equal

crack

Nov 20, 9:52pm

Who doesn’t have an equal shot?

Nov 20, 9:53pm

Army?

MarylandFan

Nov 20, 9:59pm

Let’s see what happens if they win @ND on Saturday.

garyfan

Nov 20, 10:05pm

A loss against a top 10 team should bolster their resume. It does others.

MarylandFan

Nov 20, 10:06pm

For example…

garyfan

Nov 20, 10:07pm

Penn State? Texas?

MarylandFan

Nov 20, 10:30pm

A loss to ND hasn’t bolstered their resume, but they aren’t penalized as much

garyfan

Nov 20, 10:48pm

"Army does have more to prove"

MarylandFan

Nov 20, 11:06pm

Out of 134 teams, their SOS is 121.

garyfan

Nov 20, 11:10pm

You ask for examples of imbalance. I provide. You proceed to dismiss.

MarylandFan

Nov 20, 11:25pm

No. I asked for examples of teams who bolstered their resume with an L.

garyfan

Nov 20, 11:29pm

Ah, so it's a mathematical equation algorithm based ranking system?

MarylandFan

12:03am

RE: Ah, so it's a mathematical equation algorithm based ranking system?

garyfan

12:51am

I understand what you're trying to say.

MarylandFan

1:00am

Boise too

775coug

12:07am

Army is in playoff contention if they win their conference

Nov 20, 10:26pm

Only the top 5 conference champions get in. They'd likely be left out.

12:22pm

Anyone not in the SEC or B1G

Borg

Nov 20, 9:59pm

Really? We’re in playoff contention on November 20. How do we not have the same shot as SEC teams?

Nov 20, 10:25pm

If you’re in the top half of the SEC you have a shot of getting in. In the Big12

Yucatan

Nov 20, 10:30pm

So now the B12 is as strong as the SEC?

garyfan

Nov 20, 10:49pm

He answered your question

Jeremy

Nov 20, 10:59pm

The Big12 is better than the B1G according to many computer models all 3 Sagarin

NYC and Japan

7:45am

Which B1G team should be left out?

7:50am

Because computer ratings of a conference take into account the entire conference

garyfan

8:00am

So what makes a 1 or loss B1G team so much more deserving than a 1 loss BigXII.

tkh9

8:07am

Because the one loss Big 12 team lost to 4-6 Kansas and the one loss B1G teams lost to 11-0 Oregon and 10-1 Ohio State

8:24am

So your argument is that if Oregon had lost to Wisconsin last week they would

tkh9

8:39am

Can you show me a Big 12 or ACC team that was left out that should have been in? Go back and look at the CFB Rankings

Nov 20, 11:55pm

It’s not as much about which teams “should” be in. We’re talking about rankings

Yucatan

8:00am

5th place in the SEC will make it in most years. 2nd place in the big 12 won’t. that’s not equal.

FieroCoug

Nov 20, 10:32pm

That just simply isn’t true. The SEC has never had five ranked in the top 12 playoff rankings. And the Big 12 has always

Nov 20, 11:12pm

We have a shot, but it’s not equal. If it was equal, BYU would be ranked higher

Nov 20, 10:33pm

It absolutely is equal access. You’re just looking at it too narrowly. Heres what you’re missing: program momentum

Nov 20, 11:37pm

Sorry, but you’ve drank their cool aid. There are so many flaws and bias’ in

7:15am

No, I haven’t. Every team has the chance to get in with a special season. Indiana is #5 in the country right now

7:31am

Actually, this season proves not everyone has access. 2 G5 teams undefeated or

NYC and Japan

7:53am

This season can’t prove anything yet. We can talk at the end of the year to see. If 80% definitively proved anything,

8:00am

1. Your argument is based on criteria the committee claims to ignore.

tkh9

8:17am

1. It is objectively impossible to totally ignore past seasons. To do so, you would have to pretend that every team is

9:20am

What I got out of this is it’s obviously not equal, but also it’s equal.

tkh9

9:35am

Teams and resources are not equal, opportunity is.

10:16am

Some animals are more equal than others.

Nov 20, 9:55pm

Oink

Nov 20, 10:07pm

The College Football Playoff Selection Committee is really just a cartel.

tkh9

Nov 20, 10:13pm

RE: I hate the CFP already and we haven’t even had a playoff yet.

garyfan

Nov 20, 9:54pm

First season of the expended playoff. Give it time

snowbird

Nov 20, 10:02pm

12 team playoff >>>4 team playoff >>>>>> BCS>>>>bowl games w/ no true champnshp

Nov 20, 10:05pm

Amen

TNT

Nov 20, 11:31pm

No way, the bowl games were awesome with conf vs conf matchups and lots of

Mitty

11:43am

RE: No way, the bowl games were awesome with conf vs conf matchups and lots of

1:09pm

Do you not remember what we had before?

NYCougz

Nov 20, 10:05pm

RE: Do you not remember what we had before?

garyfan

Nov 20, 10:07pm

If we can climb back to 10 before the CCG, we have a decent shot at an at large.

CougarTwins

Nov 20, 10:12pm

Holmoe needs to schedule better OOC games. Stanford and Cal won't cut it.

Nov 20, 10:26pm

There’s a fair argument to be had here.

tkh9

8:19am

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