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Oct 16, 2024
11:34:19am

boctabulous All-American

3rd down becomes less relevant if you go for it on 4th down and get a first.

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boctabulous

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I appreciated Trevor matich’s honesty about the weakness of the team

Idacoug

5:09am

Only close game was SMU? Baylor would like to have a word

C-dubb

5:14am

SMU is the only game I was worried about losing at any point in the 4th quarter.

boctabulous

11:33am

Baylor was down by 6 with the ball and had put together some great drives

canuckchuck

11:49am

Not to me. I never had any doubt.

boctabulous

11:55am

I was sweating it out

SoBlueitHurts

12:58pm

Turnovers have not really won a single game so it’s a moot point - they have

ABCoug

6:04am

Against Baylor we couldn’t buy a stop without the last minute turnover

Heath Squashwell

7:33am

Except for that 4th down stop a few minutes earlier... Also it was 2nd & 20

SoBlueitHurts

12:59pm

Yeah Baylor would have been dicey but had it been closer earlier probably

ABCoug

3:56pm

Turnovers have put teams behind and led to short fields

Bobmarleyjr

10:11am

Here is the issue with his logic

ordinary tri guy

6:04am

3rd down percentage is not related to TO though, and he is right that we need

Jarhead

6:50am

I agree but ARod has said multiple times that in 3rd the play calling may

ordinary tri guy

11:03am

3rd down becomes less relevant if you go for it on 4th down and get a first.

boctabulous

11:34am

Didn’t we have several 3 and outs as well?

Brigham

7:05am

This is why TOP is a dumb metric that doesn’t tell the story and isn’t

DescdentCoug

11:35am

All true, but you have to get the turnover “first”….easier said than done.

BleedCougarBlue2

2:33pm

Turnovers this year seem to be more a byproduct of the system than

niqmadu

6:33am

The thing we are still missing is a run game that, when the defense knows it’s

6:43am

Run game with our best guys was very good against AZ.

BYU '80

7:01am

Yeah I think our YPC is decent this year, just waiting for that game where we

8:04am

Yep...definitely still need to prove it but there are some good signs. I think

Lifer

7:48am

Yep. This has been the biggest issue imo. But now we are healthy at RB

boctabulous

11:35am

Hard to see turnovers slowing down.

Jay_L

6:57am

In the CCG or a playoff game I think an opponent will likely limit TOs

puntersarepeople

7:55am

Sounds good to me.

boctabulous

11:36am

He's absolutely right.

Genghis Spreads

7:53am

While I agree, a good defense makes me much more comfortable than a good offense

Brandoblueblood

8:10am

2 things impact that: an aggressive D trades TOs, sacks, hurries for higher 3rd

NYC and Japan

8:18am

Hopefully the defense gets fewer TOs so the offense can get a chance to improve

Great38

8:19am

I wish CFB had a "points off turnovers" stat like basketball

MaximusMeridius

10:24am

the big thing I think we've missed in analysis is experience of the qb's

conetah

10:27am

I agree, especially on defensive stops on 3rd down. Against AZ we struggled

morningcalmcougar

10:32am

Very interesting. I point out the same truth and catch hate. I 100% agree

CT98

10:41am

I was thinking that. You got roasted for saying basically the same thing LOL

Lifer

10:44am

He used the last 5 minutes of the game as his basis though. The last 5 minutes

YbeatsU

10:57am

This

boctabulous

11:37am

Really the last 20 minutes

SoBlueitHurts

1:01pm

He did not say the same thing, based on the last 5 mins of the Arizona game

byublue42

11:48am

The Utes lived off turnovers for years

12:04pm

The 2002-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers and 2000-2001 Baltimore Ravens would like a word.

Brisket

12:04pm

Or Iowa

Bobmarleyjr

1:11pm

True but...

Big12Yfan

12:44pm

Totally agree with him. It’s fun to watch but it’s eventually going to catch up

Blew

1:27pm

A reason to be optimistic, Against Arizona BYU had scoring drives of 75, 99, 54, and 75 yards. The 99 was off a turnover

PJMort

1:31pm

Do agree here. Looking forward to a running game in the redzone to help finish

ReggaeCoug

1:57pm

In addition to this the ESPN stats are actually wrong with the number of 3rd

byublue42

3:33pm

I worry about playing conference away games.

Srg

1:44pm

The good news is their QB is terrible and vs Utah stayed man entire game

Bobmarleyjr

1:52pm

He's absolutely right. The mental gymnastics by people saying otherwise is funny

ReggaeCoug

1:55pm

RE: He's absolutely right. The mental gymnastics by people saying otherwise is

SoBlueitHurts

1:56pm

Can't disagree with him. Gotta sustain drives, consistenly.

ABN RGR

2:14pm

If averages play out...

VenomFarmer

2:29pm

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