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Sep 13, 2024
9:45:02am

care86 Contributor

not saying you're wrong, but you also need to look at players who ended up doing

really well but had the same or worse passer renting numbers their first 6 starts..

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care86

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History is against Retzlaf spending much more time as a starting QB for BYU

Big12Yfan

Sep 13, 9:35am

not saying you're wrong, but you also need to look at players who ended up doing

care86

Sep 13, 9:45am

Give me one example of that? There isn't

Big12Yfan

Sep 13, 9:53am

Jim McMahon

Indy Coug

Sep 13, 9:53am

First 3 starts passer rating for Jim 160, 122, 144 3-0 record

Big12Yfan

Sep 13, 10:02am

RE: First 3 starts passer rating for Jim 160, 122, 144 3-0 record

Indy Coug

Sep 13, 10:06am

I haven't looked at the numbers but John Beck struggled early in his career

Remigius

Sep 13, 10:15am

I haven't checked, but John Beck comes to mind. So does Steve Sarkisian. And

care86

Sep 13, 10:33am

Sarkesian first 6 starts

Big12Yfan

Sep 13, 11:24am

John Beck. First start was 99.41. Averaged 104 in 2003. Was one of our most skilled QBs ever at the end of his career.

mvtoro

Sep 13, 12:40pm

None of those also had 5 P4 opponents in their first 6 starts

Indy Coug

Sep 13, 9:46am

I find it interesting how some CBers fall over themselves to demean past accomplishments by our poor SOS

Indy Coug

Sep 13, 9:47am

I agree it’s not fair to compare Jake’s stats to past BYU QBs given the SOS

ldssdl

Sep 13, 10:25am

People also neglect that that backups play came 3 years ago and hasn’t been…

arcawley

Sep 13, 10:27am

None of those also will have to face 9 P5 opponeents to end the season

BYUheaven

Sep 13, 9:47am

If he survives the season as a starter, that will be 14 P4 opponents in 16 starts

Indy Coug

Sep 13, 9:49am

No doubt, but it still does not justify and asterisk next to his QB rating.

BYUheaven

Sep 13, 9:54am

I think that’s valid, though SMU is still more G5 than P5. That’s why Jake’s

ldssdl

Sep 13, 10:15am

SMU was 9th in the nation in pass efficiency defense last year.

Indy Coug

Sep 13, 10:46am

We'll see how SMU does this year, but I don't recall many pass breakups by SMU's

ldssdl

Sep 13, 12:55pm

There seems to be a sizable contingent of fans that have given up on JR.

Projectoor

Sep 13, 9:54am

I haven’t completely given up on him, but I’m not bullish on a huge improvement either.

Indy Coug

Sep 13, 9:55am

There is nothing that I have seen that leads me to believe that JR will be

BYUheaven

Sep 13, 9:57am

2023 will have 0 effect on this year or next. What is his 2024 PER. Hint: pretty

Cougarbib

Sep 13, 10:20am

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