None of this explains why ONLY BYU players were slipping around.

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Nov 14, 2023
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Ok, I'll finally share this gen pop because it will clear up some misconceptions

BYUMizzou

11/14/23 12:45pm

Big 12 does not require painted end zones. Or ISU and OU have exceptions.

RGGeemer

11/14/23 12:47pm

I'm just relaying what was told directly to me

BYUMizzou

11/14/23 12:49pm

Hey! At least they are not in the red. Field condition not high in priority list

Idacoug

11/14/23 12:47pm

Is this a metaphor for the coaching staff?

Huge Manatee

11/14/23 12:48pm

Yes it’s a very LDS church thing to do.

A Drew Aitch

11/14/23 12:51pm

Mostly bad. I remember a BYU professor talking about expenses that had to be

maxpowers

11/14/23 12:54pm

That's hot

Belboz

11/14/23 6:03pm

Actually we have plenty of temples relative to the number of recommend holders.

GeorgeAlbertsgoatie

11/14/23 6:26pm

The ratio of members to temples is at the lowest by far since the 1st Utah

NYC and Japan

11/14/23 7:57pm

That’s why I said recommend holders turbo

GeorgeAlbertsgoatie

11/14/23 9:12pm

RE: Mostly bad. I remember a BYU professor talking about expenses that had to be

WhyaskY?

11/14/23 8:16pm

One thing bothers me. Every church building in St George keeps their thermostat

CT98

11/14/23 4:19pm

Because 72 is The Lord’s Temperature.

russkiejedi

11/14/23 4:28pm

Noooo.... I always wonder who the select few are that enjoy those icy conditions

CT98

11/14/23 4:32pm

There are only 144,000 of us!

BlueDiver

11/14/23 4:36pm

Many are called, but few…

russkiejedi

11/14/23 4:46pm

I think you mean, many are cold, but few are frozen!

Ode to Hoy

11/14/23 4:55pm

Not that's funny! I'm putting that into some future Sacrament talk I'll have to

Jasbo

11/14/23 5:10pm

Motto of the Novisibirsk mission.

russkiejedi

11/14/23 5:18pm

And every other cold climate mission…

NYC and Japan

11/14/23 7:59pm

RE: And every other cold climate mission…

russkiejedi

11/14/23 8:02pm

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BrighamJung

11/15/23 6:25am

The ones who have to wear suits all day

RGGeemer

11/14/23 5:10pm

74 is hot.

JuicyJam

11/14/23 6:22pm

Yep. Tight fisted spend-wads, yet unwilling to change behavior 🙁

Iki_Balam

11/14/23 8:25pm

This was the case in Guam as well

Iamgroot

11/14/23 8:27pm

The facilities group here keeps our thermostat at 90 for everything but the

wabluecoug

11/14/23 8:27pm

Our building in Santa Clara isn't

Fido

11/14/23 8:40pm

This sounds like my dad. Patch everything as cheaply as possible.

Boring

11/14/23 5:28pm

Our ward building is ~40 years old. 15 years ago the stake decided to replace

ptcougr

11/15/23 2:52am

Stake leaders must be Utes. They want to see a sea of red from the pulpit

CT98

11/15/23 6:36pm

Stake leaders keep requesting the change. Facilities keeps saying the money is

ptcougr

11/16/23 3:25am

Absolutely false. You have bad information!

Love Cougs

11/15/23 9:20am

Use It Up, Wear It Out, Make it Do, or Do Without

Beggar

11/15/23 1:26pm

This surprises me zero. I would be more surprised if BYU does anything about it

maxpowers

11/14/23 12:51pm

I had a tour of LES in October. The grass looked absolutely awful.

Karl Poppin

11/14/23 12:53pm

for Oklahoma, it could be a reasonable strategy as long as our guys get the

cwilke1

11/14/23 12:53pm

Sounds like the FM group is in charge of the field budgeting...

CSoul

11/14/23 12:55pm

Maybe we should submit a FIR ticket so 6 weeks from now we can have the ticket

Skeptical Optimist

11/14/23 1:15pm

What is FM and FIR?

ToasterChive

11/14/23 2:27pm

Facility Manager and Facility Incident Reporting

Styro

11/14/23 4:29pm

This.....is an underrated post, well done.

neboutefan

11/14/23 2:43pm

Point of clarification: BYU’s endzones don’t get much traffic. The opponents’

bob falfa

11/14/23 1:02pm

That is exactly what caught my eye!

BlueDiver

11/14/23 1:12pm

And further - they actually get a decent amount of traffic during pregame warm ups.

kccougar

11/14/23 1:19pm

My question is: why weren't the conditions bad for Iowa State?

Dangerous

11/14/23 1:10pm

They were. Maybe they didn't suffer as much because of it, but they did have issues.

kccougar

11/14/23 1:20pm

RE: My question is: why weren't the conditions bad for Iowa State?

ColonelMustard

11/14/23 4:22pm

So, based on this, ISU knew exactly where the "good" turf was located and the

TrueBlue67

11/14/23 1:12pm

Now that is how you scout and prepare for an opponent. It’s all about getting

BlueDiver

11/14/23 1:15pm

or they were willing to wear deeper cleats

LeonMarek

11/14/23 1:59pm

Nope not what he is saying at all 🤦‍♂️

ColonelMustard

11/14/23 4:22pm

Sounds like an admin issue and not a coaching issue. Holmoe should retire.

Cougzilla

11/14/23 1:32pm

It's a coaching issue and the ISU coach out coached KS.

coolblue

11/14/23 3:22pm

Eh... Probably both.

Cougzilla

11/14/23 3:23pm

Probably decided by someone above Tom

NYC and Japan

11/14/23 8:06pm

Use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without. Passes the smell test.

Pro Logic

11/14/23 1:55pm

Quite a magic trick: a slick field for only one team and visitor great traction

CorndogStickshift

11/14/23 2:22pm

That’s not the point. ISU wore the right cleats. He is just sharing why the

ColonelMustard

11/14/23 4:19pm

Seems like no cleats would perform on a surface that is structurally unsound.

Big Daddy D

11/14/23 4:49pm

RE: Quite a magic trick: a slick field for only one team and visitor great

ColonelMustard

11/14/23 4:22pm

FINALLY!!!

reagan21

11/14/23 3:01pm

Funny how Iowa St knew exactly where the clumps of roots were and byu didn't

Loyal2Royal

11/14/23 3:16pm

Lol YOU are the one confused. This post is just describing why the field is bad

ColonelMustard

11/14/23 4:21pm

Relax. It was an obvious joke.

Loyal2Royal

11/14/23 5:19pm

Incredible the naivity of so many here.

Love Cougs

11/15/23 9:22am

Now that BYU's getting P4 money, they need to step up and improve facilities,

Ungoy

11/14/23 3:17pm

How much could new turf possibly cost? Get a local sod farmer to donate the turf and give them free publicity at LES!

coastcat

11/14/23 3:37pm

That’s the most Mormon thing I’ve ever heard.

reagan21

11/14/23 3:44pm

I’m not LDS. You most certainly have rubbed off on me.

coastcat

11/14/23 3:46pm

Then you understand the culture really well. 😂😂

reagan21

11/14/23 3:49pm

Yes, the good, odd, everlasting and reminiscent of how I was raised.

coastcat

11/14/23 3:53pm

I'm pretty sure the turf they have now came from a local turf farm in Payson.

Ungoy

11/14/23 3:55pm

The original turf was grown, the sand mixture came from Florida.

Iki_Balam

11/14/23 8:20pm

No wonder our offense goes 3 and out everytime. Just taking it easy on the grass

boorad

11/14/23 4:20pm

This is unfortunate, but ISU didn't have the same issues on the same field.

LateToTheGame

11/14/23 4:38pm

RE: Ok, I'll finally share this gen pop because it will clear up some

imdocrob

11/14/23 4:43pm

I’m just fine with not redoing the field. It has led to absolutely no difference

Atama

11/14/23 4:44pm

RE: I’m just fine with not redoing the field. It has led to absolutely no

imdocrob

11/14/23 4:52pm

Where is TNT when you need him? Are grass root systems tearing CB apart?

BlueDiver

11/14/23 4:53pm

I don’t believe this

palangi

11/14/23 5:00pm

Info suspect. Not all B12 teams paint end zones, & ISU wasn’t sliding everywhere

zerome4sooners

11/14/23 5:00pm

Before pointing fingers at BYU for being cheap, I’d like to know how common it

Skeptical Optimist

11/14/23 5:12pm

There is a spectrum of turf management. BYU is towards the bottom end.

Iki_Balam

11/14/23 8:24pm

Dang and the players want all natural turf

BaseCoug

11/14/23 8:34pm

Replaced after every game? How is that even possible?

shoganai

11/15/23 6:44am

Yeah that's definitely not true.

JuicyJam

11/15/23 7:11am

I don’t believe for a second that NFL teams replace their turf after every game

Skeptical Optimist

11/15/23 7:10am

They absolutely do not.

Senora Featherbottom

11/15/23 7:40am

Everything in this post is absolutely wrong.

Senora Featherbottom

11/15/23 7:41am

Arizona and Las Vegas take quite a bit of time to prep their turf. Def not every game

LaserCoug

11/15/23 10:15am

But turf monster seemed very selective, biting mostly BYU last week. Cleats?

seacougar

11/14/23 6:16pm

None of this explains why ONLY BYU players were slipping around.

COACHdrn

11/14/23 6:28pm

Didn’t seem to bother ISU much!

jpal1397

11/14/23 7:19pm

But this still doesn't explain why BYU slipped and ISU didn't...

lbmango

11/14/23 7:59pm

They wore screw on cleats that grip better than plastic molded cleats BYU wore

jpal1397

11/14/23 8:25pm

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gww687

11/14/23 9:10pm

Why did BYU even join the BIG12 if we aren't going to put in the dime in to make this work?

Coug

11/14/23 9:37pm

And beyond that the field looks terrible

cougforever

11/14/23 10:14pm

Best just to put down the latest artificial turf.

Big-Q

11/15/23 8:44am

Absolutely not

Senora Featherbottom

11/15/23 9:53am

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