Garbage time was the defense - last TD. Good question re Hall. He was dinged

Sep 30, 2022
3:01:29pm

Cougarbib Intervention Needed

up. It makes me wonder what us up with Conover and Fenegan. One of them is one bad hit away from being the guy and neither has taken a snap this season.

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Let this sink in:

Hawk Talons

9/30/22 8:54am

Means the offense wasn’t doing us many favors either.

Rat

9/30/22 8:54am

agreed, poor overall team performance.

Cougzilla

9/30/22 9:01am

In the end the offense graded out about a #19 in points scored per drive, D

kotacoug

9/30/22 9:13am

Where’d you find this? I like it.

YOHONOMOTO

9/30/22 9:47am

BCFtoys.com….. like I said it’s ‘about’ i just calculate it based off the way

kotacoug

9/30/22 9:58am

How do defensive TDs factor in?

Still Questing

9/30/22 10:33am

Taken out of offense calculations

kotacoug

9/30/22 11:58am

Well - what credit does the D get? None, right? Holy flawed stat even if u did

Cougarbib

9/30/22 12:00pm

FEI accounts for this. It hasn’t been calculated yet. This is just PPD as NOTED.

kotacoug

9/30/22 12:04pm

It was terribly miscalculated home made PPD. Fix it.

Cougarbib

9/30/22 12:10pm

Yes the D wasn’t super terrible just the usual bad lol

kotacoug

9/30/22 12:35pm

And then u make mistakes on top of that. Homemade stats got love them. U

Cougarbib

9/30/22 11:59am

Can you show me the math on this?

Cougzilla

9/30/22 9:51am

2 ppd for the defense and 2.8 ppd for the offense? That sound right?

Cougzilla

9/30/22 9:54am

I think you are a bit off. The offense would be closer to 40ish and the D 60ish

Cougzilla

9/30/22 10:04am

No I think you’re right. I may have mixed up some drives, I get 2 and 2.82 so

kotacoug

9/30/22 10:13am

That sounds more like what I’d have expected.

YOHONOMOTO

9/30/22 10:18am

Ok cool, just wanted to make sure I was getting the numbers right. Thanks

Cougzilla

9/30/22 10:29am

Now that u may be closer - go fix your terribly wrong posts. Sheesh.

Cougarbib

9/30/22 12:03pm

What was Weber State's offensive rating vs. Utah State? Per that site.

Pollster

9/30/22 1:23pm

Once again u calculator guys miscalculate and also miss the big picture. That

Cougarbib

9/30/22 11:58am

Well the offense purposefully stalled and didn’t attempt to score, also the

kotacoug

9/30/22 11:59am

You really should edit your post.

Bluedarts

9/30/22 12:32pm

Miscalculated the numbers as noted in other responses. Defense was its usual #60

kotacoug

9/30/22 12:43pm

All units on the team were frustrating, but I have zero tolerance for comments

here's to hoping

9/30/22 10:28am

I apologize for the pick 6 and 2 more turnovers. Offense had it really rough...

Bluedarts

9/30/22 10:36am

outliers always exist, show me havoc over the past 5.5 years vs other teams.

here's to hoping

9/30/22 10:50am

Weber actually held them to 0, the USU TD was a kick return.

CameronG

9/30/22 11:09am

Weber State is good. USU QB Bonner was terrible after his injury last season.

Cougarbib

9/30/22 12:23pm

Wait, are you suggesting Weber state has better players than BYU? If not,

pilot17

9/30/22 1:52pm

Of course not. Weber State played a different USU team than we played. U

Cougarbib

9/30/22 2:57pm

I don’t know about havoc, but I can show you consistency.

Cougzilla

9/30/22 11:12am

Yep, its all on the o, because we already know the d isn't gonna do its job

here's to hoping

9/30/22 11:28am

RE: Yep, its all on the o, because we already know the d isn't gonna do its job

Cougzilla

9/30/22 11:36am

Maybe I will find time to respond to this fully but your parameters immediately

here's to hoping

9/30/22 11:42am

By using 24 as the standard it somewhat compensates for the fewer possessions

Cougzilla

9/30/22 11:50am

This. CCU, BSU tip that list. Entire team bad in the other 3 losses.

Cougarbib

9/30/22 12:24pm

Yeah Oregon, UAB, Baylor. All offense underperforming

BYU '80

9/30/22 2:27pm

I did look at it. You just don’t like the results.

Cougzilla

9/30/22 3:31pm

Then your analysis stinks

BYU '80

10/1/22 12:25am

Bad 1st half for entire team. Great D in 2nd half. ST giving USU 50 yard line

Cougarbib

9/30/22 12:22pm

This wasn’t the first game. The d had caused two turnovers coming in

BYU '80

9/30/22 2:24pm

Funny. 3 turnovers including pick 6. At least 1 turnover on downs. 4th turnover

Cougarbib

9/30/22 12:15pm

The first half was atrocious

Avery

9/30/22 8:54am

Yet they did happen…

mulletino

9/30/22 8:55am

Exactly

Carnac

9/30/22 8:59am

Sorry but this is a very poor take. Last two drives we did everything possible

ordinary tri guy

9/30/22 8:56am

That's another point. College football is about style points

jrifkin48

9/30/22 8:58am

This. The final score was due in large part to Kalani’s extraordinary sense of sportsmanship

Lynk

9/30/22 9:04am

Which nobody care about. Blake Anderson didn't as he tried to take out Jaren

jrifkin48

9/30/22 9:08am

Kalani cares about it.

Lynk

9/30/22 9:12am

Kalani should care less about it

CameronG

9/30/22 11:11am

I wish he cared about leading by enough that backups got reps

BYUfan92

9/30/22 11:29am

Exactly. Except last drive should not have even happened. It was vs scrubs. And

Cougarbib

9/30/22 12:27pm

If it was garbage time, why was Jaren Hall still in?

Brigham

9/30/22 1:34pm

Garbage time was the defense - last TD. Good question re Hall. He was dinged

Cougarbib

9/30/22 3:01pm

didnt

lobocoug

9/30/22 5:07pm

didn't we run a reverse?

lobocoug

9/30/22 5:07pm

To be fair, if we don't get the turnovers, the complexion of the game changes

2FarGone

9/30/22 8:56am

Then let THIS sink in...

Eddie

9/30/22 8:57am

Not to mention two missed FG's that any college kicker should hit with relative ease

P-Boy Squad

9/30/22 8:58am

Essentially missed 3 since we didn’t dare kick it on one opportunity which resulted in a failed 4th down attempt.

mulletino

9/30/22 9:00am

Romney seemed hesitant 2 tuck the ball and potentially land on his kidney on it.

Cougarbib

9/30/22 12:29pm

Let this sink in: Gunner dropped a TD pass and Oldroyd missed 2 FGs, and we

Skeptical Optimist

9/30/22 8:59am

I'm somewhat skeptical about your Optimism. But if it plays out like that, I'd be a lot happier this morning!

Bert609

9/30/22 9:00am

On top of that, we had ball, momentum, mix in a few throws instead of run run

Cougarbib

9/30/22 12:33pm

I think Gunner, Kalani, Oldroyd and Tooley skimmed, had money on the game.

Benfica1

9/30/22 9:01am

RE: I think Gunner, Kalani, Oldroyd and Tooley skimmed, had money on the game.

Skeptical Optimist

9/30/22 9:02am

Wow, tough crowd.

Benfica1

9/30/22 9:45am

They were up by 18. I understand the point, but I don't think you can take much

cougaman

9/30/22 8:59am

And maybe they happened because USU isn’t very good? We also extended several

rivercitycoug

9/30/22 8:59am

Defense makes a great play, creates a turnover and TD. Meh, lucky, doesn’t count

Reasonable1

9/30/22 9:00am

First two turnovers were forced by good defensive plays

Remigius

9/30/22 9:03am

They are one of the worst teams in football because they turn the ball over

BYUheaven

9/30/22 9:04am

I think the best argument is that a team that not only lost to but were crushed

Bluedomination

9/30/22 9:09am

When? Maybe when u go 2.5 years unranked. That will start next season

Cougarbib

9/30/22 3:04pm

If you take away BYU's scores, BYU got shut out.

Belboz

9/30/22 9:10am

BYU won. It counts the same. Not totally happy. Can def. Improve. Go Cougs!!

baishel44

9/30/22 9:21am

CB complaining about D not being aggressive enough AND complaining that the D

NYC and Japan

9/30/22 9:26am

Turnovers do come from aggression which is why byu has forced five in five games

BYU '80

10/1/22 12:27am

that's why this Win feels like a Loss

mindzeYe

9/30/22 9:44am

Let this sink in: take away Hall, Brooks and Tooley and

CougaRR4L

9/30/22 9:45am

Two missed fgs and a dropped td. 2 drives at the end of the game that we went

Bluedarts

9/30/22 10:26am

On paper it doesn’t make sense but watchers of CFB know that rivalries like this

Pretorian

9/30/22 10:52am

Which is exactly what the TV guys were saying.

Eddie

9/30/22 11:00am

Is that why we managed to beat Utah last year?

Brisco

9/30/22 11:06am

It certainly helped and has helped them as we were big brother for a while

Pretorian

9/30/22 2:12pm

It's an excuse, USU had no business being in that game last night

CameronG

9/30/22 11:23am

Totally agree, the only reason they were in is because they get jacked up to

Pretorian

9/30/22 2:13pm

Then our guys should have been up for it as well, right?

BleedCougarBlue2

9/30/22 12:00pm

Except the way rivalries work is a big brother little brother scenario

Pretorian

9/30/22 2:18pm

Let this sink in:

my4boys

9/30/22 11:07am

You could also list several small things that, if they had gone differently,

porl thompson

9/30/22 11:13am

Nobody is Complaining about a Win

USCougar04

9/30/22 11:23am

well, I kind of am....

Recon Ranger

9/30/22 11:33am

Yes, 1/2 the board are nobodies.

porl thompson

9/30/22 2:17pm

In trouble the next 2 weeks

BYUvermont

9/30/22 11:28am

I’m wondering what your point is. Is there something we should do?

canofpicante

9/30/22 11:29am

Watch the game and then ask your question.

Hawk Talons

9/30/22 1:03pm

No, no. You’re not talking to the coaches or players. What do you want me and

canofpicante

9/30/22 1:31pm

I don’t play the what if game. I don’t play it when we lose, nor when we win.

andrewg3

9/30/22 11:38am

they scored a garbage TD at the end of the game against our reserves, AND

Str8CashCougar

9/30/22 11:44am

Should have been plus 4, but bogus targeting call robbed us. We would have been

Cougarbib

9/30/22 11:55am

You deflectors are an embarrassment to intelligence and coddle mediocrity. The

Horacio Caine

9/30/22 12:52pm

Woulda coulda shoulda. Blah blah blah. We win the freaking game. Be happy.

flyonawall

9/30/22 1:16pm

RE: Let this sink in:

TheHikingProfessor

9/30/22 1:16pm

Some people just choose to miserable, I guess? Excellent BYU teams in the past

grosven

9/30/22 1:18pm

Ignorance is bliss

Horacio Caine

9/30/22 3:05pm

I only watched the second half. We completely dominated. win by 30 if Kalani

qwerew

9/30/22 4:58pm

And we easily could have scored again. It wasn't that close.

rockyrd

9/30/22 5:23pm

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