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Jul 2, 2022
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The_Cuss
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To be fair, It’s obvious that Utah is pick #5 from the PAC12. So does it matter?
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In Ben Criddle’s unofficial poll, 60 something percent of cougar fans
Bluedomination
7/2/22 9:38am
I don’t get it. Are you arguing we should be like Yewts?
MogollonMtsCoug
7/2/22 9:40am
ONLY if it is necessary to also grab other PAC schools.
Benfica1
7/2/22 9:42am
And yet, 60-something% are dead wrong.
Snipe
7/2/22 9:42am
The U of U would destroy BYU sports if they could. They’ve already tried. They
BlooCoog
7/2/22 9:43am
They bring zero additional value to the Big XII. They are a net negative.
BYUtka
7/2/22 9:53am
You were wrong the first 7 times you posted this.
Utefaninenemyland
7/2/22 9:56am
Go away, oh you can't, there is no where else to go
nybyblue
7/2/22 10:03am
Link to your proof that I am incorrect? Even PAC homer Wilner says it.
BYUtka
7/2/22 10:05am
Wilner has mixed motives. If AZ schools, Utah, Colorado leave. He's out of a job
here's to hoping
7/2/22 11:31am
Ok, what do they bring exactly? Why would the Big12 choose Utah over, say, Colo
yahtzee
7/2/22 11:11am
According to the WSJ they are one of the 20 most valuable college football
Utefaninenemyland
7/2/22 11:15am
Link?
yahtzee
7/2/22 11:18am
Here is a list of 25 schools. Which 5 here do you think are less valuable?
yahtzee
7/2/22 11:46am
....Wall Street Journal had Utah #37
krindorr
7/2/22 12:54pm
Where WSJ ranks various Big 12 / PAC12 teams in value
krindorr
7/2/22 1:02pm
How is value being calculated. That prob presupposes contracted tv revenue
yahtzee
7/2/22 1:21pm
Presumably, which is one reason I had the note at the end
krindorr
7/2/22 1:24pm
Yeah sorry corrected in another thread, they were referring to Utah being 14th
Utefaninenemyland
7/2/22 1:24pm
Thank you for correcting your lie.
ParentingNotForSissy
7/2/22 5:30pm
I can tell you that ESPN's valuation numbers are very different than what the WSJ shows, especially after the top 12-15
slatecoug
7/2/22 6:15pm
Always like to see different perspectives - didn't know ESPN had a public list. Do you have a link?
krindorr
7/2/22 6:18pm
There's a few in the top 15 according to WSJ that ESPN does not agree with.
slatecoug
7/2/22 6:20pm
If Utah is interested, than the big 12 will be interested.
cougar4life55
7/2/22 2:07pm
Will they? Will a broadcast partner really be willing to pay enough more for
BYUtka
7/2/22 2:17pm
Keeping telling yourself this.
Utefaninenemyland
7/2/22 2:26pm
Link to your proof I am incorrect? You keep responding to my posts like a creepy
BYUtka
7/2/22 2:33pm
In fairness, neither of you have provided evidence for your claims
krindorr
7/2/22 4:01pm
To be fair, It’s obvious that Utah is pick #5 from the PAC12. So does it matter?
The_Cuss
7/2/22 5:46pm
That's because they were playing USC, UCLA, OR, and UW
slatecoug
7/2/22 6:10pm
As a BYU guy I am not naïve enoungh to suggest Colorado is worth more than Yewta
Dat_rmishner
7/2/22 11:53am
CO brings a bigger TV market. UT brings a better FB team.
Forzaitalia
7/2/22 1:41pm
You don't add Colorado or Utah. Neither brings much.
slatecoug
7/2/22 6:09pm
This is accurate, but to not invite them just to get back at them is not the BYU way
2FarGone
7/2/22 10:25am
Right, so don't invite them because adding them reduces our payouts. It doesn't
BYUtka
7/2/22 10:32am
Utah is a, remote, but possible big 10 addition. In no way should BYU EVER give
Kajdin
7/2/22 9:47am
Honestly, B1G would have to expand to 26 teams to get that far.
RealityCheck
7/2/22 10:03am
Maryland is already in the Big 10.... Just FYI
krindorr
7/2/22 1:04pm
Only if the b1g is interested in charity considering they’d
BYU '80
7/2/22 10:11am
The only place Utah wouldn't be a net negative addition would be the MWC.
BYUtka
7/2/22 10:13am
That is why they were selected by the pac 12 10 years ago. Oh yeah religious
Utefaninenemyland
7/2/22 10:41am
The PAC made a desperate knee jerk reaction then, thinking they had to expand.
BYUtka
7/2/22 10:56am
Research school. The Pac 12 is looking more and more like the Ivy League.
ParentingNotForSissy
7/2/22 5:34pm
People miss the old days when we shared a conference And we dominated them.
Ted Lasso
7/2/22 9:48am
Where you end up on this question seems largely based on whether you are
Gavin
7/2/22 9:52am
For me it’s the opposite. My heart yearns to have an epic annual rivalry
BYUCLA
7/2/22 9:58am
I’m a hack.
Bluedomination
7/2/22 9:59am
Would help BYUs recruiting significantly if Utah went down
BYU '80
7/2/22 10:13am
That’s a very fair counterpoint.
Gavin
7/2/22 10:15am
Seems like the two schools who have hurt us the most in recruiting are Stanford
deljdc
7/2/22 3:21pm
I’m on the opposite spectrum, my heart says the rivalry is fun, my brain says
Bluedomination
7/2/22 9:59am
Both my heart and my head cryout burn baby burn!
nybyblue
7/2/22 10:05am
Talk to your head about decreased revenue shares, lost recruits, dealing with
BYUtka
7/2/22 10:22am
Regarding the rivalry and BYU’s identity
cajuncoug
7/2/22 1:50pm
60%? I call bull.
Zaphod
7/2/22 10:04am
Listen to his podcast.
Bluedomination
7/2/22 10:48am
I’m sure that includes a lot of Utes who listen to his show.
deja-blu
7/2/22 11:28am
There is a reason we call them Yewts; Don't be a Yewt
2FarGone
7/2/22 10:24am
Wow--that may speak more to who listens to Ben Criddle.
Incentivize
7/2/22 10:31am
Or follows him on Twitter. Yewts are all over Twitter. It is an infestation.
BYUtka
7/2/22 10:33am
Criddle has a lot of Ute followers. They love to hate him.
yahtzee
7/2/22 11:11am
Since 90% of their fanbase is made up of a bunch of clowns, I’m going with that.
WDaddy
7/2/22 11:44am
Lots of those are Ute fans voting.
Thrill
7/2/22 11:55am
Probably all the Pierre fans
Les IsMore
7/2/22 2:39pm
I know BYU administrators felt pretty jilted when
deljdc
7/2/22 3:24pm
RE: I know BYU administrators felt pretty jilted when
Ursas Puma
7/2/22 6:43pm
BYU fans are idiots. Legitimately as awful as Utah fand. Just in a different
Backcountry
7/2/22 4:04pm
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