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Aug 1, 2021
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PHXSUNS31
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So your strategy is just to assume everyone is doping and complain about it?
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Is it just me, or is it obvious that Jamaica is juicing?
Corn Pop
7/31/21 7:28pm
They’re totally a dirty program.
Spiff
7/31/21 7:29pm
They probably are juicing, but a small nation of fast people does produce fast
Lance71
7/31/21 7:30pm
Genetics + it’s the country’s favorite sport (from what I understand)
Revolution
7/31/21 7:42pm
Explain the before 2008. They suddenly started to dominate both the mens
SoValleyCOUG
7/31/21 9:31pm
The IOC ramped up testing for the 2004 and 2008 Olympic games. So, it’s possible that Jamaica actually was behind the
Odysseus
7/31/21 9:43pm
So, wait, there are genetic differences between different races? Impossible!!!
Iman23
7/31/21 7:43pm
I was told in a work training that’s not true
stoils
7/31/21 8:30pm
Yep. Dirty as they come
Beggar
7/31/21 7:30pm
Not just that they are winning. Their sprinters are cruising with daylight
bluelands
7/31/21 7:31pm
RE: Not just that they are winning. Their sprinters are cruising with daylight
cougarstrong
7/31/21 7:38pm
I remember how shocked Carl Lewis was when Ben Johnson flew past him...
icecougar
8/1/21 6:17am
Maybe it’s genetics lol 😆
A Drew Aitch
7/31/21 7:33pm
It’s racist, sexist, bigoted to suggest there are genetic differences.
panacablue
7/31/21 7:50pm
Remember 'equality' means everyone is literally the exact same. Or something
Hotlanta
7/31/21 8:03pm
That's interesting. I've worried about the same thing and American swimmers.
HeismanTy
7/31/21 7:38pm
3rd largest population in the world and the best facilities in the world. Real head scratcher.
KingDave
7/31/21 7:41pm
There's a reason the vast majority of the world's top swimmers train in the US
Corn Pop
7/31/21 7:44pm
It's not a head scratcher that we win a bunch of swimming medals. How we win
HeismanTy
7/31/21 7:46pm
Good swimming facilities are expensive. The US has many more competition pools
Megamind
7/31/21 8:11pm
Not just the best facilities, but any facilities
Gustav
7/31/21 8:41pm
That was my thought as well. I even told my wife, how is she so far ahead?
BNcoug
7/31/21 7:38pm
I mean this isn’t new…unless you’re implying they’ve been juicing forever
PHXSUNS31
7/31/21 7:44pm
1 or 2 is no surprise, but when they pump out relay teams, male and female,
Thrill
7/31/21 7:58pm
Read Sports Gene by Epstein. There are pockets of genetic abnormalities that
runnincoug
7/31/21 8:05pm
Perfect mix of genetics + environment. Great book too
Odysseus
7/31/21 8:10pm
Yep. And it’s not racist to say that, because it’s not a race-based observation,
Scratch
7/31/21 8:14pm
Where are the genetic pockets of fast white people?
Iman23
7/31/21 9:45pm
I’m sure there are some, relative to other white people.
Scratch
7/31/21 9:50pm
Athletics isn't always about being fast. Dutch are unusually tall (average male
runnincoug
7/31/21 10:03pm
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Hotlanta
7/31/21 10:43pm
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slatecoug
7/31/21 8:40pm
Jamaica/US have always been great @ sprints. When everyone is clean, they/we win
Undefeated
7/31/21 8:21pm
Prior to 2008, Jamaica's Olympic results in the 100M&200M were very pedestrian
slatecoug
7/31/21 8:42pm
Fire my research team!:)
Undefeated
7/31/21 11:03pm
Attempting to use humor to cover up the fact that you were completely wrong
slatecoug
8/1/21 3:57pm
I hate writing just cause it doesn't always convey intent. I was literally just
Undefeated
8/1/21 10:56pm
They only breathe through their noses. I think that’s amazing.
(Private)
7/31/21 8:35pm
Of course the Jamaican sprinters are juicing, Jamaican Olympic results included
slatecoug
7/31/21 8:39pm
So what you’re saying is Bolt was really good. He won more than half those golds
PHXSUNS31
7/31/21 8:45pm
Bolt was really good, then he started juicing and became unbeatable.
slatecoug
7/31/21 8:58pm
Bolt is like Barry Bonds. Barry Bonds was one of the greatest baseball players
EtTuKalante
7/31/21 9:03pm
Good comparison
slatecoug
7/31/21 9:08pm
Except Bonds actually tested positive, Bolt never did. Bad comparison
PHXSUNS31
7/31/21 9:12pm
Lance Armstrong never tested positive either
slatecoug
8/1/21 5:11am
So your strategy is just to assume everyone is doping and complain about it?
PHXSUNS31
8/1/21 7:32am
When you’re dominating an event with a long history of doping, a logical conclusion is you just haven’t been caught yet
Spiff
8/1/21 11:26am
I’m just not going to hold the sins of his competitors against him.
PHXSUNS31
8/1/21 11:41am
Do you think if doping didn't exist, people of African ancestry like Usain Bolt,
Undefeated
8/1/21 12:13pm
There is a reason why byu top 5 100 meter times are from guys with African
Undefeated
8/1/21 12:33pm
That's not what we are discussing
slatecoug
8/1/21 3:51pm
I'm not assuming anything. I'm looking at all of the facts which are many and...
slatecoug
8/1/21 3:47pm
You believe something to be true without proof, that’s an assumption
PHXSUNS31
8/1/21 4:17pm
Right. & Freak of nature > must be the hardest of all hard workers.
Undefeated
8/1/21 11:11pm
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slatecoug
8/2/21 5:42pm
It helps when they don't test
lazycoug
8/1/21 10:05am
If Bolt was inconsistent and as lazy as said, then the lazy would explain the
Undefeated
8/2/21 1:18am
Of the top 10 fastest 100m runners all time, Bolt is one of 2 to never be banned
PHXSUNS31
7/31/21 9:10pm
And Lance Armstrong was never busted on a test...
EtTuKalante
7/31/21 9:13pm
I guess Phelps and Dressel and Ledecky are doping too, probably Simone as well
PHXSUNS31
7/31/21 9:19pm
Yep, it’s a lazy argument. And we’d have to assume not only are Jamaicans doping but that they are better at doing it
Odysseus
7/31/21 9:45pm
With Jamaica, I'll withhold some judgment. With China and Russia not a bit.
EtTuKalante
7/31/21 9:54pm
He did fail a test when he retired & came back for another run & his samples didn’t match previous levels when he won.
Spiff
7/31/21 9:23pm
I'd bet if Bolt was juicing, the other top world sprinters were too. So probably
Undefeated
7/31/21 11:42pm
Just like Armstrong. Everybody was doping in cycling. Probably still are.
EtTuKalante
7/31/21 11:46pm
All the other top sprinters in the world were caught doping except Bolt
PHXSUNS31
8/1/21 12:53am
And Lance Armstrong won 7 straight Tours de France.
Spiff
7/31/21 9:13pm
2008-2016, Jamaica won every single gold in Men's & Women's 100M/200M except 1
slatecoug
7/31/21 8:47pm
Sprinting is what kids do in Jamaica for recess, etc. It's cultural.
Hill4Heisman
7/31/21 9:04pm
Ya Scandinavian kids in Minnesota don’t run at recess…. Lol it’s all cultural.
kotacoug
7/31/21 10:06pm
Running and sprinting are different.
lilpenny
8/1/21 6:29am
Juicing hasn't helped Russia, China, etc.
Undefeated
7/31/21 9:49pm
And?
slatecoug
8/1/21 5:13am
And it hasn't evened the playing field because they aren't as fast naturally.
Undefeated
8/1/21 9:15am
So. Why are you wasting time going off on a tangent?
slatecoug
8/1/21 3:52pm
I see people discussing Genetics and doping, which is what I too am discussing.
Undefeated
8/1/21 10:57pm
This was only about doping
slatecoug
8/2/21 5:43pm
I believe natural selection from extreme slavery conditions plays a huge role in
Robert Baratheon
7/31/21 10:32pm
CBS is going to fire you again Jimmy the Greek. You have to learn it is okay to think that privately, but you can’t say
Trent
8/1/21 7:04am
On the front page of ESPN right now it says that a dude from italy won the 100
boctabulous
8/1/21 7:37am
I guess they’re doping now too
PHXSUNS31
8/1/21 7:39am
Good comparison. Did they sweep? Are they a tiny island nation?
Beggar
8/1/21 8:57am
If a dude from italy won then wouldn't that mean that jamaica didn't sweep?
boctabulous
8/1/21 9:17am
They swept the women’s event
Beggar
8/1/21 9:29am
So a poor country is better at doping than Russia and China and others? I doubt
Undefeated
8/1/21 9:54am
It'd be more suspicious if 3 athletes NOT Jamaican swept the 100m
runnincoug
8/1/21 10:45am
exactly
Undefeated
8/1/21 11:47am
Born in the USA though
Undefeated
8/1/21 9:11am
Slave owners used "LeBron" types as studs.
ParentingNotForSissy
8/1/21 7:47am
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