Flipping a jet upside down, no big deal. Canopies 3 feet apart... rudders would literally be hitting each other. But the

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Sep 10, 2020
10:16:42am

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best part is that this scene was supposed to be happening while the MiG has doing a pushover into a dive hard hard enough to cause -4Gs!

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POLL: Watching Top Gun. Who was the better aviator: Maverick or Iceman and why.

Shore10

9/9/20 8:53pm

Ice won the trophy- Mav did get the girl though

rerunc

9/9/20 8:56pm

RE: Ice won the trophy- Mav did get the girl though

No touching

9/9/20 9:12pm

Doesn't mean he had to keep her. This is Tom Cruise, after all- he keeps them until they turn 30, right?

thaws

9/10/20 8:01am

Neither: that film is beyond unrealistic

PickleButton

9/9/20 8:56pm

Seemed so real though.

Shore10

9/9/20 9:03pm

RE: Neither: that film is beyond unrealistic

BYUheaven

9/9/20 9:05pm

No, not at all: flew jets in the USAF and

PickleButton

9/9/20 9:06pm

That’s awesome!

BYUheaven

9/9/20 9:15pm

Ok i'm jealous.

Shore10

9/9/20 9:16pm

yeah, but it was fun

tjngirlz

9/9/20 9:30pm

What, USAF jets don’t have a brake pedal?

valleus

9/9/20 11:44pm

What is your perspective of the second one based on what’s in the trailers?

kcca

9/9/20 9:22pm

Wait, you can’t flip a jet upside down to keep up international relations?

2FarGone

9/9/20 9:24pm

Flipping a jet upside down, no big deal. Canopies 3 feet apart... rudders would literally be hitting each other. But the

mvtoro

9/10/20 10:16am

First of all, the F14 has two vertical stabilizers, the MiG only has 1 so it

DeekLyfter

9/10/20 10:29am

True. The Mig29 was a strange and abrupt derivation from typical mig development in every respect. An inverted -4g dive

mvtoro

9/10/20 10:35am

It's a Mig28 in the movie

DeekLyfter

9/10/20 10:42am

Typo. Of course it was a mig28.

mvtoro

9/10/20 10:45am

It's an F-5.

Shore10

9/10/20 12:13pm

As aside, my favorite jet as a kid was the F-20 Tigershark II (basically a newer F-5)

2FarGone

9/10/20 12:17pm

Blasphemy! Jester tells us that the aggressors they fly against at Miramar are A-4s ams F-5s! I didn’t see that shiney

mvtoro

9/10/20 12:18pm

I'm curious where the mountains came from. Are there desert mtns in Florida?

Shore10

9/10/20 12:22pm

Miramar is by San Diego.

mvtoro

9/10/20 12:31pm

Ah, you've settled my mind again.

Shore10

9/10/20 12:42pm

Good. You need to maintain as much “Willing suspension of disbelief” as possible while watching this classic.

mvtoro

9/10/20 12:49pm

Oh. My. Gosh. Have you even seen the movie?

DeekLyfter

9/10/20 2:28pm

RE: Oh. My. Gosh. Have you even seen the movie?

Emmett Fitz-Hume

9/10/20 2:45pm

Yeah i've seen the movie. But I also know a Mig-28 doesn't exist.

Shore10

9/10/20 3:12pm

You know it's not a documentary, right?

DeekLyfter

9/10/20 6:48pm

Ah interesting. Can you show me a real Mig-28?

Shore10

9/10/20 7:34pm

It's a real simple Google search, but since you're lazy, here ya go

DeekLyfter

9/10/20 7:38pm

Weird. Looks just like an F-5.

Shore10

9/10/20 7:55pm

Apparently China shot down a mig28 in one of their training exercises (Link)

mvtoro

9/10/20 8:39pm

Yeah, that's what I said, superstar! But it's not an F-5 it's a MiG-28!

DeekLyfter

9/10/20 8:43pm

RE: Weird. Looks just like an F-5.

Emmett Fitz-Hume

9/11/20 4:31am

That's it. This settles it. Maverick was Incredible.

Shore10

9/10/20 12:46pm

Ok, first of all, IT'S NOT AN F-5. Does it look like one? Yes. But it's a

DeekLyfter

9/10/20 2:43pm

Does it look like an F-5? Yes. Because it is an F-5.

Shore10

9/10/20 3:14pm

RE: Does it look like an F-5? Yes. Because it is an F-5.

DeekLyfter

9/10/20 6:48pm

Except the "I'm gonna hit the brakes and he'll fly right by", that part is real

DeekLyfter

9/9/20 9:40pm

Maverick was just ahead of his time with the Cobra maneuver. A true innovator. You’d never see Ice man even attempt it

mvtoro

9/10/20 12:39pm

Duh... It was Cougar. He was #1, but turned in his wings.

tjngirlz

9/9/20 9:04pm

He was playing Utah that day.

Shore10

9/9/20 9:05pm

Iceman. Every time Maverick went up there he was dangerous.

Brutus216

9/9/20 9:25pm

You *should* be dangerous up there. Ice was dangerous in the locker room. Nearly bit someone!

mvtoro

9/10/20 10:08am

Maverick never was the same without his goose

MajorZeus

9/9/20 9:26pm

Their names are perfect for them. Iceman is a better pilot, easy

Jericho

9/9/20 10:06pm

Maverick got three migs at the end. Ice one got one.

Shore10

9/9/20 10:27pm

Iceman. Maverick wasn't even best in his own squadron until Cougar gave up. Maverick got into Top Gun on a technicality

byujag

9/10/20 7:55am

He had the intangibles when it mattered!

Shore10

9/10/20 8:01am

That was based 100% on politics! You try getting recognized when you’re Duke Mitchell’s son! The fly by Penny Benjamin

mvtoro

9/10/20 10:07am

that's an interesting point about his dad, they mention one time in the movie his family doesn't have the best history

byujag

9/10/20 11:24am

It is brought up later in Top Gun when he is at Tom Skerrit's house after Goose dies. He confirmed to Maverick

thaws

9/10/20 11:45am

And the cover story was that Duke “screwed up”. Mav tells Charlie later that “The stink of it was, he screwed up.”

mvtoro

9/10/20 12:12pm

Yes, and apparently the State Department does notifications of death for the

Emmett Fitz-Hume

9/10/20 2:24pm

One irrefutable truth about Top Gun (MAJOR SPOILERS!!!)

Emmett Fitz-Hume

9/10/20 2:42pm

Nevermind, I lied. He's good just changed professions - not truck driving

Emmett Fitz-Hume

9/10/20 2:43pm

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