Infectious dose...

Apr 10, 2020
1:31:37pm

Robert Baratheon All-American

Infectious dose...

Does a high viral load or infectious dose make covid-19 worse?

Does being exposed to more virus particles mean you’ll develop more severe illness? Data suggests the relationship between infection and severity may be complex

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2238819-does-a-high-viral-load-or-infectious-dose-make-covid-19-worse/

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Robert Baratheon

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Well, my daughter tested positive on Monday and now the rest of us have fevers

Extra Biscuits

4/9/20 11:32pm

I have no idea if I have it. I have a fever and a cough called my doctor

CougarForLife

4/9/20 11:40pm

I think a lot of people are feeling the same way. My daughter who tested

Extra Biscuits

4/9/20 11:44pm

ExXtly tests should be available everywhere for rveryone

CarolinaCoug

4/10/20 12:05am

Assuming there are enough now. 90-95% of those tested are negative

BYU '80

4/10/20 12:42am

Neat.my retired but working at wal mart dad got tested 5 days ago

CarolinaCoug

4/10/20 12:48am

Not sure how that addresses my point on availability of tests

BYU '80

4/10/20 1:02am

Some people just do not get that testing 300,000,000 once, let alone the

Cougarbib

4/10/20 1:36am

Others dont get that crappy testing protocols mean nothing .or that you

CarolinaCoug

4/10/20 11:50am

Hospitals have the test machines from Abbot Labs. They are everywhere, because

Cougarbib

4/10/20 1:23pm

That is thw answer ..

CarolinaCoug

4/10/20 8:06pm

We have over 300,000,000 people. If you do not have it the day you are tested,

Cougarbib

4/10/20 1:32am

I know. try getting a flu test or strep test! Sooo hard!

CarolinaCoug

4/10/20 12:00pm

The rapid test is available now - just pushing hospitals to use it. Abbot Labs

Cougarbib

4/10/20 1:26pm

Part of that is we are testing the people more likely to have complications, not

cougaman

4/10/20 9:14am

That is as it should be, because it dies not matter much if the younger one

Cougarbib

4/10/20 10:08am

The serology study in California will be really interesting.

antiyewt

4/10/20 10:23am

All good news,but germany follows thebrules.

CarolinaCoug

4/10/20 12:06pm

It would actually be phenomenal news if more Americans have it, but, they

Cougarbib

4/10/20 1:29pm

Correct. Right now its an issue of test availability

CarolinaCoug

4/10/20 12:02pm

The point of being tested is that you know she had it and you know that U were

Cougarbib

4/10/20 1:25am

Simply not true. I got tested very easily with very mild symptoms here in Utah.

RUNBYU1

4/10/20 10:14am

I went to testutah.com and the IHC Covid symptom tracker

CougarForLife

4/10/20 11:04am

Same with us; that system told us to just stay home and our doctor told us no

Extra Biscuits

4/10/20 11:16am

I just drove right up to the testing facility almost 2 weeks ago and they asked if I wanted to get tested and I said yes

RUNBYU1

4/10/20 1:56pm

I think the testutah.com is actually preventing people from getting tested that should. I didn't do any of that stuff.

RUNBYU1

4/10/20 1:57pm

I don’t doubt your experience in the slightest; but clearly not everyone has

Extra Biscuits

4/10/20 2:49pm

Wow that's lame of Lehi. I agree that everyone is not on the same page and won't necessarily have the same experience

RUNBYU1

4/10/20 3:50pm

What part of Utah? Where do you think daughter may have gotten it from? You're

StutterOfTheCougar

4/9/20 11:44pm

We found out last Friday that the father of a friend of hers had confirmed

Extra Biscuits

4/9/20 11:51pm

5 days is the average incubation

claw

4/9/20 11:56pm

Studies from China show 1 to 27 days incubation w 5 the average

flyzag

4/10/20 8:10am

If ya'll have or haven't been wearing masks and practicing social distancing...

CarolinaCoug

4/10/20 12:17am

It sounds like they had no impact on society - maybe positive. Very soon, we

Cougarbib

4/10/20 1:53am

I agree,but germans are not americans or itallians. They follow the rules

CarolinaCoug

4/10/20 12:14pm

I have not seen the report on Italy test. If they did it correctly and got that

Cougarbib

4/10/20 1:34pm

I will be fasting and praying that young and healthy that would not expose

Cougarbib

4/10/20 1:40am

Call your doctor. We are talking to our positive patients every day for 14 days

doctorcoug

4/9/20 11:55pm

My daughter certainly has. We’ve asked repeatedly if we should get tested too

Extra Biscuits

4/9/20 11:58pm

That's correct

doctorcoug

4/10/20 12:08am

Good luck get better hope you ask for and take meds.

CarolinaCoug

4/10/20 12:03am

I was one of the first cases in Utah feel free to PM me.

Kauai

4/10/20 12:08am

You guys will be fine. I’m envious in a way

Jericho

4/10/20 12:29am

My best friend’s sister’s boyfriend’s brother’s girlfriend

cougERdoc

4/10/20 1:10am

Did she pass out at 31 flavors?

Scooter

4/10/20 5:58am

You will be blessed very soon if you all have it. Those

Cougarbib

4/10/20 1:17am

I would just ask to start the Hydroxychloroquine now

ABCoug

4/10/20 7:46am

This

CarolinaCoug

4/10/20 12:16pm

Had 4 family members with it. 2 in their 30s and 2 kids. One adult has MS, the other severe asthma, diabetes, and

BlueBlood94

4/10/20 3:07am

Great outcome. Probably typical for a young family, generally, but

Cougarbib

4/10/20 10:11am

Have they got antibody test done on them now too?

CarolinaCoug

4/10/20 12:18pm

Not widely available in US yet, and they will focus on medical

Cougarbib

4/10/20 1:36pm

My youngest son had it, started his 14 day quarantine two days ago. He is in

DJROSS

4/10/20 5:56am

There is no evidence of less harmful “strains”. Virus is mutating to a degree

Robert Baratheon

4/10/20 6:45am

Weak infection = weak symptoms. Simple.

charles

4/10/20 6:57am

Viral load vs bodies defences. Simple

charles

4/10/20 6:59am

Structure of virus is not the variable changing.

Robert Baratheon

4/10/20 8:03am

Not the structure. Social distancing changes viral load/# of virons

charles

4/10/20 9:46am

Huh? Social distancing affects you not getting the virus, not your viral load.

Robert Baratheon

4/10/20 10:25am

Viral load depends on how many you start with plus how many are replicated

charles

4/10/20 11:20am

I wouldn’t think initial viral load would have mattered due to exponential

Robert Baratheon

4/10/20 11:31am

Yes. Get the virus from a weakened one on a surface will have a different result

Cougarbib

4/10/20 11:36am

Tru dat

charles

4/10/20 11:46am

That just does not make sense to me. The viral genome remains the same whether

Robert Baratheon

4/10/20 1:16pm

He's assuming one gets 10,000,000 virons from the girlfriend mouth to mouth

charles

4/10/20 1:20pm

It doesn’t matter. There are only up to 10 base pair mutations from the MOST

Robert Baratheon

4/10/20 1:22pm

No one suggesting weakened strands.

charles

4/10/20 1:29pm

Infectious dose...

Robert Baratheon

4/10/20 1:31pm

Thx, we are now on the same page.

charles

4/10/20 1:43pm

The importance of viral dose. repost excerpt s from NYT article posted on CB

charles

4/10/20 9:51pm

Interesting and plausible. Thank you.

Robert Baratheon

4/10/20 11:40pm

It is dying on the surface the longer it is on the surface and

Cougarbib

4/10/20 1:39pm

There is absolutely NO evidence to suggest there are weakens stands. Sorry.

Robert Baratheon

4/10/20 1:18pm

No one is suggesting weakened strains. It's simply viron quantity.

charles

4/10/20 1:23pm

I must have mis read cougarbib.

Robert Baratheon

4/10/20 1:27pm

Google how long will Coronavirus live on a hard surface and read up.

Cougarbib

4/10/20 1:40pm

I am not doubting it can die on a surface. This notion that the virus is "less"

Robert Baratheon

4/10/20 7:53pm

All of the sequencing that has been done is showing little no mutation.

Robert Baratheon

4/10/20 7:56pm

I said nothing about mutations. Viruses die a slow death on surfaces weakening

Cougarbib

4/10/20 11:47pm

From what I understand you said: The virus off the surface is weaker.

Robert Baratheon

4/11/20 8:49am

From a surface a few hours old with some viruses still viable but most unviable

Cougarbib

4/11/20 11:15am

Yes it will. The question is whether the infectious dose has any impact.

Robert Baratheon

4/11/20 2:53pm

In short. People get more sick is their own bodies ability, not the virus.

Robert Baratheon

4/10/20 10:40am

Yes its the same virus but the number of initial virons varies greatly.

charles

4/10/20 11:22am

1 ft.

CougarMandias

4/10/20 7:03am

2 ft.

CougarMandias

4/10/20 7:03am

3 ft.

CougarMandias

4/10/20 7:03am

4 ft.

CougarMandias

4/10/20 7:04am

5 ft.

CougarMandias

4/10/20 7:04am

6 ft.

CougarMandias

4/10/20 7:04am

Sorry to hear it, hang tough [muffled through mask]

CougarMandias

4/10/20 7:05am

If you don't mind, How old? Where did she get it? Was she socially distancing?

The Old Y

4/10/20 8:39am

She’s 18; pretty sure she got it from a friend early on and it took a

Extra Biscuits

4/10/20 9:03am

Ugh. Sorry about that. We have teenagers too and it's a battle.

The Old Y

4/10/20 9:54am

Good luck, man! We're praying 4 you. Today's Friday so we're fasting for you 2!

BleedCougarBlue2

4/10/20 9:04am

Thanks for all of the great responses; this is a great board

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