The philosophy on this is not nearly as settled as you are proclaiming.

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Mar 19, 2020
10:51:20am

joelvandyne Truly Addicted User

The philosophy on this is not nearly as settled as you are proclaiming.

Especially if we have the ability to prevent nature form running its course.

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There needs to be a frank public discussion about the value of human life.

boogers

3/19/20 9:34am

Sounds like we need to set up death panels

DapperDan

3/19/20 9:36am

His point is that we have. We don’t shut down the country for 80,000 lives

Brigham

3/19/20 9:37am

Sure Dan. That's a valid response. How much do YOU think we should pay

boogers

3/19/20 9:38am

Is that what you think we have to combat the flu?

3/19/20 9:39am

I'm not sure what you are asking. Regardless of what he have to combat

boogers

3/19/20 9:41am

To combat the flu we have vaccines that many people eschew, and antiviral

DapperDan

3/19/20 9:41am

We could also mandate current measures and drastically reduce that number even

boogers

3/19/20 9:42am

Yet 80,000 people still die and we as a society accept that. Sad. But true.

3/19/20 9:45am

RE: There needs to be a frank public discussion about the value of human life.

BigTex

3/19/20 9:37am

Also about saving for rainy days

Gustav

3/19/20 9:39am

How many people would have died if we didn’t do this social distancing thing? That’s the number we need to compare to

shimmy

3/19/20 9:48am

I don't know what the number is. It is at least 80k. But we should be

boogers

3/19/20 9:50am

Agreed. I hope we don’t bail out big businesses. 0-interest loans maybe. I hope the only people bailed out are small

shimmy

3/19/20 10:00am

The seasonal flu is something we’ve dealt with for a long time and we know what

russkiejedi

3/19/20 10:07am

You injected something that is not part of my aurgument.

boogers

3/19/20 10:43am

Sorry, once you've read 500 comparisons of the virus to the flu, they all run

russkiejedi

3/19/20 11:37am

Conflation on this element is appropriate.

boogers

3/19/20 1:06pm

Agree 100%

cougfanz

3/19/20 10:08am

Tough conversation to have as a republican/conservative given abortion

3/19/20 10:20am

Also undermines an anti-euthanasia stance, especially for older people.

3/19/20 10:26am

yup.

boogers

3/19/20 10:40am

Not really. Electing to actively end the life of another human verse allowing nature to run its course is not close to

3/19/20 10:46am

The philosophy on this is not nearly as settled as you are proclaiming.

joelvandyne

3/19/20 10:51am

I'm not saying the debate over how much we should do to save lives is settled, but conflating abortion verse

3/19/20 12:00pm

If they're not struggling with that, they should. That is, at least if they want

joelvandyne

3/19/20 12:40pm

There is no persuasion in the abortion debate. It’s a fool’s errand

3/19/20 1:33pm

What a defeatist, self-fulfilling prophecy.

joelvandyne

3/19/20 7:51pm

By choosing economy over life saving actions, it's very comparable.

3/19/20 10:54am

It's not

3/19/20 11:57am

Fair enough.

3/19/20 12:53pm

It's part of a larger convo on end of life care

runnincoug

3/19/20 10:23am

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