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Aug 15, 2019
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mindzeYe
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UU wasn't chosen "over" BYU
They wanted the rivalry and they wanted common sense geography, if possible. UU was on the map from early on.
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Pac-10 wanted BYU with Utah ... 2 simple reasons why it didn't happen.
mindzeYe
8/14/19 10:57pm
That doesn’t make sense. Colorado was already in. They just needed
idacoug
8/14/19 11:01pm
Exactly. Boom goes the dynamite 🧨 n that fake narrative.
Turnpike Lane
8/14/19 11:04pm
Oh gosh
chazen
8/15/19 10:34am
Whatever. I offered no dates when these exploratory discussions took place.
mindzeYe
8/14/19 11:42pm
In the 90s, yes. You would be correct.
BYUHgrad
8/15/19 6:14am
This is absoloutely correct. Amazing how things basically reveresed except one
idacoug
8/15/19 9:00am
not talking about the 90s. This is 2008-2010 time frame.
mindzeYe
8/15/19 9:30am
I don’t think byutv did reply’s back then.
BYUHgrad
8/15/19 10:17pm
LOL. You’re serious? Just no. PAC12 took Colorado first then added Utah. So stop.
Turnpike Lane
8/14/19 11:03pm
nonsensical response.
mindzeYe
8/15/19 12:15am
So glad you know more than the OP who actually knows his stuff
chazen
8/15/19 10:35am
I can believe #1. I don't believe #2 for a second.
KingDave
8/14/19 11:04pm
I added the word "replay" which makes it more clear
mindzeYe
8/14/19 11:58pm
The Pac-12 was "never an option" for BYU. BYU never even received a "courtesy
Ute in DC
8/14/19 11:13pm
true, never an option for both reasons stated. But TH has a spin
mindzeYe
8/14/19 11:55pm
TrueTrue, is that you?
cougarmeister
8/14/19 11:27pm
changed Pac-12 to Pac-10 and added a few notes for clarity
mindzeYe
8/15/19 12:14am
Ya gotta love the creative history of supposed insiders.
CougarThug
8/15/19 1:16am
prove it incorrect with a source
mindzeYe
8/15/19 2:16am
i get it ...
mindzeYe
8/15/19 3:06am
Is that Mark Bragg?
BlueFrog
8/15/19 5:58am
yes.
mindzeYe
8/15/19 8:02am
Wow. You are the older gentleman, I presume?
TRUE_BLUE_COUGY
8/15/19 6:06am
yes.
mindzeYe
8/15/19 8:03am
You did a coffee table book?
The Dude Abides
8/15/19 8:38am
i'm sure it ended up on some coffee tables.
mindzeYe
8/15/19 8:52am
Man, based on pix 2 and 3 I should write a book!, haha!
BleedCougarBlue2
8/15/19 12:19pm
What about Sunday replay? That's the real doozie!
coug almighty
8/15/19 5:01am
WAIT!!! The Dude is on CB?
whiteninja
8/15/19 5:27am
Sunday play will always be a sticking point and non-starter for full conference
NewMexiCoug
8/15/19 5:38am
Extra money from FB would Trump that in a second
Pretorian
8/15/19 5:43am
You really think BYU adds that much to a P5 conference that the other
NewMexiCoug
8/15/19 5:49am
BAma cougs Howe’s mountains of data indicating the value of BYU over
Pretorian
8/15/19 11:52am
Love BamaCoug's information. I agree that we were the logical choice for the PAC
NewMexiCoug
8/15/19 4:24pm
Think man, just bc BYU doesn’t play on Sunday it doesn’t mean other teams can’t
Pretorian
8/15/19 5:39pm
Sorry, but I work with some influential U Texas fans and that was the first
NewMexiCoug
8/15/19 8:12pm
They could say that at first glance but once they thought about it they’d get
Pretorian
8/16/19 5:56am
That is my point. The added value we might bring is not worth the upset to the
NewMexiCoug
8/16/19 6:12am
Your point is logical I just think the main sports have enough
Pretorian
8/17/19 8:20am
UU wasn't chosen "over" BYU
mindzeYe
8/15/19 9:21pm
I don’t follow your logic?
Pretorian
8/18/19 10:10am
Why the capitol T? Was the president involved?
Croweater
8/15/19 8:21am
Completely unintentional
Pretorian
8/15/19 11:53am
This....
Pretorian
8/15/19 5:41am
This is such a garbage post
Swishfromdeep3
8/15/19 5:46am
Utter garbage. No need to say anything about this. If you're going to make stuff up, at least make it semi-believable
Adrielle
8/15/19 6:06am
Why would he make something up and then out himself IRL?
dchandle15
8/15/19 6:45am
I don't believe him one bit. If someone gave him this information, it's false
Adrielle
8/15/19 12:58pm
That's a great opinion you have there. Care to share any facts?
GigantorCat
8/15/19 1:04pm
I’m glad that someone at least shared something from a PAC 12 source. Usually
dchandle15
8/15/19 7:01pm
Perhaps this is true. But it gets no mention in media write-ups that have circulated since that year...
Tokolosh
8/15/19 6:17am
Media wouldn't know this because no offer was ever made
mindzeYe
8/15/19 9:07am
Many of the stories delve into more than offers made. This just isn't in those stories, even as an in passing mention.
Tokolosh
8/15/19 10:23am
Enough about this, what are your suggestions for picking a good suit?
TEXAS
8/15/19 6:19am
No capes
Powerbait DPM studnt
8/15/19 10:51am
If BYU allows byutv to be the sticking point that prevents them from getting into an P5 conference, then they're too
foofcoug
8/15/19 7:08am
They said Sunday play and TV rights. Seems like a negotiation ploy. BYU knows
thecthdox
8/15/19 9:11am
entirely possible ...
mindzeYe
8/15/19 7:55pm
RE: Pac-10 wanted BYU with Utah ... 2 simple reasons why it didn't happen.
kansascougar
8/15/19 7:08am
RE: Pac-10 wanted BYU with Utah ... 2 simple reasons why it didn't happen.
Lolo
8/15/19 7:22am
But this destroys the CB narrative that everyone is out to get BYU
TheLoneCougar
8/15/19 7:24am
While also supporting he narrative that BYU was wanted more than Utah was...
Eddie
8/15/19 9:30am
While also falsely assuming any of this is true.
ochobeeguy
8/15/19 10:05am
Well of course! That's what makes narratives fun!
Eddie
8/15/19 10:07am
You're way off base if you think ...
mindzeYe
8/16/19 10:02pm
And you're off base if you think I'm sharing what I think.
Eddie
8/18/19 7:40am
Despite decades of working together the Sunday play was creating issues with MWC
BYUtka
8/15/19 7:45am
It's been my experience that true insiders never betray the trust
Everyman
8/15/19 7:59am
Thanks. You get it.
mindzeYe
8/15/19 9:11am
When does the MWC ever play anything on Sunday, even today?
Richbyu
8/15/19 10:16am
I know they did some WBB on Sunday back when we were in the conference.
NewMexiCoug
8/15/19 4:36pm
This always comes up. The PAC didn't want us because we aren't liberal enough.
Mattattack159
8/15/19 8:10am
you parrot the convenient rumor
mindzeYe
8/15/19 8:41pm
RE: Pac-10 wanted BYU with Utah ... 2 simple reasons why it didn't happen.
UberDeek
8/15/19 8:27am
You missed the religious affiliation as a key factor
Cougarpride
8/15/19 8:34am
he said those two points were non-negotiable for both sides
mindzeYe
8/15/19 8:50am
I believe those who were involved in the discussions a few decades ago and
Cougarpride
8/15/19 11:40am
share what you know about the 90s discussion. This is about 2008-2011
mindzeYe
8/15/19 8:00pm
If you read my post I touched on both time frames
Cougarpride
8/15/19 8:14pm
just recycled CB rumors
mindzeYe
8/17/19 11:25am
sorry - this is patently false
oskiute
8/15/19 8:46am
All excuses for “we don’t want a religious institution”. Belief in god doesn’t
travelcoug
8/15/19 8:56am
Can't dispute that, but ...
mindzeYe
8/15/19 9:26am
It really is true though.
DocPimp
8/15/19 4:18pm
that line will get blown up if there ever is another expansion and ...
mindzeYe
8/15/19 8:50pm
Agreed. But I doubt that happens. The Pac is actually
DocPimp
8/15/19 11:18pm
I agree.
idacoug
8/15/19 9:02am
what I shared happened before Larry Scott ever was hired
mindzeYe
8/17/19 11:27am
The only way that this might be partly true is that the ADs probably wanted BYU
cougarmeister
8/15/19 9:14am
consider for a moment that
mindzeYe
8/15/19 9:35am
Casual discussions between ADs (which Holmoe says never happened)...
cougarmeister
8/15/19 11:50am
misreading
mindzeYe
8/15/19 8:33pm
The ADs are not the ones who vett potential candidates.
Everyman
8/15/19 12:04pm
Wow, bring some credible info & get skewered. CB never disappoints
pegushin
8/15/19 9:25am
Actually only one reason not two. 1) c Religion
Beetdiggercoug
8/15/19 9:27am
I want to believe this but it just doesn't add up.
Ned Schneebly
8/15/19 9:35am
#Fakenews
Sooner Cougar
8/15/19 9:53am
I always thought the Coca-Cola thing was the deal breaker
Tsisquan
8/15/19 10:19am
Larry scott specifically mentioned culture
kansascougar
8/15/19 12:33pm
Sure, that's his spin
mindzeYe
8/15/19 8:47pm
If we could get into a P-5 now I'd be willing to drop the BYU-TV rights....
BleedCougarBlue2
8/15/19 1:46pm
Its possible under a 2008-2010 timeframe. That would have preceded Larry Scott.
Josef K
8/15/19 3:16pm
It doesn't matter if it was the 90's, 2011, etc... The fact is BYU
blackshirts
8/16/19 7:44am
ADs have their hands tied with no-play Sunday
mindzeYe
8/16/19 9:55pm
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