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Aug 20, 2014
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ebv
Anecdotal experience trumps everything else for you? Confirmation bias, ftw!
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The facts about the Redskins name and Logo
Accipiter
8/20/14 10:25am
The term "Redskins" has one connotation today: the NFL
SpiffCoug
8/20/14 10:31am
"What makes the red man red?"
Y05
8/20/14 10:38am
This is actually very misunderstood (and confusing) anti-communist propaganda
byutx
8/20/14 10:40am
Agree
Busiturtle
8/20/14 10:39am
I wonder when all the Native Americans got together and voted for those few to
byutx
8/20/14 10:33am
AA's were called the n word 100 years ago but we've moved past that
RC Vikings
8/20/14 10:33am
Why do so many pretend to be offended when the VAST majority of
byubyu
8/20/14 10:39am
What data tells you that a VAST majority of Native Americans feel that way?
russkiejedi
8/20/14 11:00am
because politics is a team sport. you always have to root for
riboflavin
8/20/14 10:40am
If talking about "negro" then you might be on to something. The other "n" word
Accipiter
8/20/14 10:57am
I had the epiphany this morning that the name Redskin is not racist nor
Y05
8/20/14 10:36am
Well said, although I would love for a team named Washington Cronies
Busiturtle
8/20/14 10:42am
They should also bring back their Bud Light "Firewater" and the smoke signal
byutx
8/20/14 10:43am
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Mall Santa
8/20/14 10:43am
so, should we come up with new names for
Y05
8/20/14 11:05am
It's really impressive the amount of dumb that can fit in a single post
DapperDan
8/20/14 11:20am
How do you feel about the F-word? Please apply this same thought process to that
russkiejedi
8/20/14 11:04am
What if an old friend came up to you & said it's so f`ing good to see you again
Y2k
8/20/14 11:12am
Again, the word remains offensive regardless of intent, and I'd wish he chose a
russkiejedi
8/20/14 11:18am
Honestly, I have never felt any negative connotation to the word
Y05
8/20/14 11:31am
Anecdotal experience trumps everything else for you? Confirmation bias, ftw!
ebv
8/20/14 11:45am
Lots of people see nothing wrong with bombing off the f-word in every other
russkiejedi
8/20/14 12:02pm
Some people are offended by the word
ABCoug
8/20/14 6:43pm
Bloody is a word with a meaning outside of the curse used by the British.
russkiejedi
8/20/14 6:48pm
redskin potatoes
Y05
8/20/14 7:17pm
When I played intramurals at BYU, our team name was the "Fighting Whities."
AndyDwyer
8/20/14 10:44am
Reverse discrimination.
byutx
8/20/14 10:45am
This thread is sad.
ebv
8/20/14 10:57am
RE: This thread is sad.
byutx
8/20/14 11:03am
Bravo!
ebv
8/20/14 11:38am
It's hardly a "large swath". But here we are again, letting the minority among
notorious p.i.g.
8/20/14 11:05am
I think you have that backwards
byutx
8/20/14 11:06am
What would you say it is?
notorious p.i.g.
8/20/14 11:15am
I think this is a case where the majority is deciding the minority's fate
byutx
8/20/14 11:17am
Let's be clear here, the majority don't give a rat's behind what Washington's
russkiejedi
8/20/14 11:24am
whoops.
notorious p.i.g.
8/20/14 11:31am
See, I disagree.
notorious p.i.g.
8/20/14 11:32am
I may have misread your post above. But I think we can also construe this as the
byutx
8/20/14 11:40am
I get your point of view here, but
notorious p.i.g.
8/20/14 11:51am
How is their opinion "revoked"?
ebv
8/20/14 12:00pm
Merriam-Webster defines "revoke" as follows:
notorious p.i.g.
8/20/14 12:04pm
You conveniently ignore the first definition: to "officially" cancel it
ebv
8/20/14 12:09pm
Changing the name of the Redskins seemed to be a pretty official thing.
notorious p.i.g.
8/20/14 12:46pm
Ha! How are they using their official authority to do it?
ebv
8/20/14 1:38pm
Well, it hasn't been done yet, so this is all hypothetical.
notorious p.i.g.
8/20/14 1:47pm
I don't think many people are calling for a legal solution here. This is all
russkiejedi
8/20/14 12:13pm
Founding principle: protecting the minority from the tyranny of the majority.
ebv
8/20/14 11:43am
Sure, but this issue doesn't have anything to do with actions.
notorious p.i.g.
8/20/14 11:53am
I agree, to a point--it's more commercial than civil rights.
ebv
8/20/14 11:58am
It is not warped in any way!
notorious p.i.g.
8/20/14 12:07pm
How is that wrong if the majority doesn't care?
ebv
8/20/14 12:10pm
There is pretty easy and recent one....
ABCoug
8/20/14 6:46pm
What about when a minority of a minority group changes it's mind?
Accipiter
8/20/14 11:57am
So, because it was innocuous in the 1800s means it hasn't changed or warped?
ebv
8/20/14 12:00pm
Because it's virtually never used outside of football, as in to deride
Accipiter
8/20/14 12:10pm
So anecdotal evidence trumps all for you, too. Great.
ebv
8/20/14 12:11pm
Find and example and you might change my mind
Accipiter
8/20/14 12:14pm
Isn't that more because there are relatively few Native Americans compared to
ebv
8/20/14 12:41pm
44 million (African Amercian) vs 5.2 million in the US
Accipiter
8/20/14 12:55pm
Ok, your empirical evidence is unassailable. Redskin is clearly not derogatory.
ebv
8/20/14 1:41pm
I am saying no one hears it being used. I am still waiting for you to prove me
Accipiter
8/20/14 6:57pm
Wasn't the owner of the team considered racist?
El Fuego
8/20/14 10:57am
Maybe you're confusing Snyder with Sterling?
Accipiter
8/20/14 10:59am
Nope.. just did some quick Google search. Looks like he indeed was.
El Fuego
8/20/14 11:00am
Marshall being a racist means Dan Snyder also is?
Accipiter
8/20/14 11:13am
Looks like Lone Star was probably German.
El Fuego
8/20/14 11:18am
He claimed he was Native American. Ownership thought he was.
Accipiter
8/20/14 11:23am
I think you're ignoring the big picture and focusing on only one aspect.
El Fuego
8/20/14 11:26am
But old rich white guys from NE don't care. They are offended on behalf of
Jeff Spicoli
8/20/14 11:22am
It was a GOTV attempt by Dems to try and get Native Americans
marticorp
8/20/14 1:57pm
Should re-name it the Thinskins, after the PC crowd
frontrowcougar
8/20/14 9:51pm
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