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Aug 20, 2014
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notorious p.i.g.

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Time

The facts about the Redskins name and Logo

Accipiter

8/20/14 10:25am

The term "Redskins" has one connotation today: the NFL

SpiffCoug

8/20/14 10:31am

"What makes the red man red?"

Y05

8/20/14 10:38am

This is actually very misunderstood (and confusing) anti-communist propaganda

byutx

8/20/14 10:40am

Agree

Busiturtle

8/20/14 10:39am

I wonder when all the Native Americans got together and voted for those few to

byutx

8/20/14 10:33am

AA's were called the n word 100 years ago but we've moved past that

RC Vikings

8/20/14 10:33am

Why do so many pretend to be offended when the VAST majority of

byubyu

8/20/14 10:39am

What data tells you that a VAST majority of Native Americans feel that way?

russkiejedi

8/20/14 11:00am

because politics is a team sport. you always have to root for

riboflavin

8/20/14 10:40am

If talking about "negro" then you might be on to something. The other "n" word

Accipiter

8/20/14 10:57am

I had the epiphany this morning that the name Redskin is not racist nor

Y05

8/20/14 10:36am

Well said, although I would love for a team named Washington Cronies

Busiturtle

8/20/14 10:42am

They should also bring back their Bud Light "Firewater" and the smoke signal

byutx

8/20/14 10:43am

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Mall Santa

8/20/14 10:43am

so, should we come up with new names for

Y05

8/20/14 11:05am

It's really impressive the amount of dumb that can fit in a single post

DapperDan

8/20/14 11:20am

How do you feel about the F-word? Please apply this same thought process to that

russkiejedi

8/20/14 11:04am

What if an old friend came up to you & said it's so f`ing good to see you again

Y2k

8/20/14 11:12am

Again, the word remains offensive regardless of intent, and I'd wish he chose a

russkiejedi

8/20/14 11:18am

Honestly, I have never felt any negative connotation to the word

Y05

8/20/14 11:31am

Anecdotal experience trumps everything else for you? Confirmation bias, ftw!

ebv

8/20/14 11:45am

Lots of people see nothing wrong with bombing off the f-word in every other

russkiejedi

8/20/14 12:02pm

Some people are offended by the word

ABCoug

8/20/14 6:43pm

Bloody is a word with a meaning outside of the curse used by the British.

russkiejedi

8/20/14 6:48pm

redskin potatoes

Y05

8/20/14 7:17pm

When I played intramurals at BYU, our team name was the "Fighting Whities."

AndyDwyer

8/20/14 10:44am

Reverse discrimination.

byutx

8/20/14 10:45am

This thread is sad.

ebv

8/20/14 10:57am

RE: This thread is sad.

byutx

8/20/14 11:03am

Bravo!

ebv

8/20/14 11:38am

It's hardly a "large swath". But here we are again, letting the minority among

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 11:05am

I think you have that backwards

byutx

8/20/14 11:06am

What would you say it is?

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 11:15am

I think this is a case where the majority is deciding the minority's fate

byutx

8/20/14 11:17am

Let's be clear here, the majority don't give a rat's behind what Washington's

russkiejedi

8/20/14 11:24am

whoops.

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 11:31am

See, I disagree.

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 11:32am

I may have misread your post above. But I think we can also construe this as the

byutx

8/20/14 11:40am

I get your point of view here, but

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 11:51am

How is their opinion "revoked"?

ebv

8/20/14 12:00pm

Merriam-Webster defines "revoke" as follows:

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 12:04pm

You conveniently ignore the first definition: to "officially" cancel it

ebv

8/20/14 12:09pm

Changing the name of the Redskins seemed to be a pretty official thing.

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 12:46pm

Ha! How are they using their official authority to do it?

ebv

8/20/14 1:38pm

Well, it hasn't been done yet, so this is all hypothetical.

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 1:47pm

I don't think many people are calling for a legal solution here. This is all

russkiejedi

8/20/14 12:13pm

Founding principle: protecting the minority from the tyranny of the majority.

ebv

8/20/14 11:43am

Sure, but this issue doesn't have anything to do with actions.

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 11:53am

I agree, to a point--it's more commercial than civil rights.

ebv

8/20/14 11:58am

It is not warped in any way!

notorious p.i.g.

8/20/14 12:07pm

How is that wrong if the majority doesn't care?

ebv

8/20/14 12:10pm

There is pretty easy and recent one....

ABCoug

8/20/14 6:46pm

What about when a minority of a minority group changes it's mind?

Accipiter

8/20/14 11:57am

So, because it was innocuous in the 1800s means it hasn't changed or warped?

ebv

8/20/14 12:00pm

Because it's virtually never used outside of football, as in to deride

Accipiter

8/20/14 12:10pm

So anecdotal evidence trumps all for you, too. Great.

ebv

8/20/14 12:11pm

Find and example and you might change my mind

Accipiter

8/20/14 12:14pm

Isn't that more because there are relatively few Native Americans compared to

ebv

8/20/14 12:41pm

44 million (African Amercian) vs 5.2 million in the US

Accipiter

8/20/14 12:55pm

Ok, your empirical evidence is unassailable. Redskin is clearly not derogatory.

ebv

8/20/14 1:41pm

I am saying no one hears it being used. I am still waiting for you to prove me

Accipiter

8/20/14 6:57pm

Wasn't the owner of the team considered racist?

El Fuego

8/20/14 10:57am

Maybe you're confusing Snyder with Sterling?

Accipiter

8/20/14 10:59am

Nope.. just did some quick Google search. Looks like he indeed was.

El Fuego

8/20/14 11:00am

Marshall being a racist means Dan Snyder also is?

Accipiter

8/20/14 11:13am

Looks like Lone Star was probably German.

El Fuego

8/20/14 11:18am

He claimed he was Native American. Ownership thought he was.

Accipiter

8/20/14 11:23am

I think you're ignoring the big picture and focusing on only one aspect.

El Fuego

8/20/14 11:26am

But old rich white guys from NE don't care. They are offended on behalf of

Jeff Spicoli

8/20/14 11:22am

It was a GOTV attempt by Dems to try and get Native Americans

marticorp

8/20/14 1:57pm

Should re-name it the Thinskins, after the PC crowd

frontrowcougar

8/20/14 9:51pm

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