players? He's putting together the best career of former cougs in the last 25-30 years. Who outside of Steve Young has been a better NFL player than Fred? I didn't start watching the NFL until around 2000 or so, so I'm legitimately asking. Was Bart Oates a better player at his position than Fred? I know his resume is really good, but was he considered the best center in the league at the time? Any other player that would be in the running?