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MissouriCoug18 Starter

10:02am

Being a BYU fan can be gut-wrenching, BUT

DreamerCoug

10:01am

Game winning drive and Chase was not in the last 2 plays

1manwolfpack

10:00am

Best name for BYU-ASU rivalry game?

TheMoose

9:58am

Saints vs Sinners

88Coug

9:59am

Saints and Devils

Durden

10:01am

Obvious, but also best choice.

runnincoug

10:02am

Holy war

Longseason

10:01am

Blog: Dallin Hall Returns As BYU Cruises Past Mississippi Valley State View

[KSL Sports]

9:57am

ASU fans were just as punchable as Utah fans. Clown show of a fan base

DreamerCoug

9:57am

Dallin Leavitt is now an ASU fan. Clown show starts right there.

Big Daddy D

10:00am

I heard Dillingham drives a Cyber Truck.

specsauce All-American

9:55am

Bloocoug right now

Sandy Lyle

9:58am

Our pain right now hurts a little, but can you imagine being 1-7 in conference??

mikecito

9:54am

They mocked us so bad last year for going 2-5.

Yukon

9:57am

And not winning at home in conference

Longseason

10:03am

What was CB saying about John Beck during the 2005 season?

Crowd Factor

9:53am

He can’t win the big games. Something about “it”

NYCougz

9:54am

Here is what I said in 2005, and some responses

cruiserhead

10:02am

Air Force put up a fun stat yesterday.

Abe Froman

9:53am

Almost a year ago to the day, I predicted a 9 win season with Retzlaff as QB1

cougarbob137

9:51am

Well you are wrong.we winning 10 games

NYCougz

9:53am

With a little help, it could very well be 12+

ebv

9:59am

Go wildcats!

NYCougz

10:01am

It has been an amazing season. Way beyond expectations for most of us.

Big Daddy D

9:59am

Blog: TV Info, Kickoff Time Announced For BYU’s Senior Day Matchup Against Houston View

[KSL Sports]

9:50am

Goal post…

BYU4eVeR

9:48am

Retractable, yes.

Madam Pattirini

9:48am

There’s a release pin. The school lowers them to avoid them being broken off.

ChiCityCoug

9:49am

Yeah, I think they released them on purpose to avoid breaking it.

tamasiaina

9:50am

I am pretty sure they are motorized, too.

Madam Pattirini

9:51am

Wrubell said they had to be lifted back up. Don’t know if he was right, though.

Yukon

9:53am

Probably, I’ve just seen pins in HS but you’re right. College probably has them

ChiCityCoug

9:54am

Regarding grounding, what is the rule?

I'mBatman

9:48am

From someone earlier they said there is a rule that states, in the event of

ChiCityCoug

9:50am

But there was 1 second left.

1manwolfpack

9:51am

…not if there was a second left, though, right?

Yukon

9:52am

The game wasn't over. We don't need it to extend the game

JuicyJam

9:52am

Ah good call

ChiCityCoug

9:53am

He didn’t throw it to avoid a sack and there was a receiver in the area where

DudeBro

9:53am

Nah they could have called that grounding. They called it in Utah a couple hours

ChiCityCoug

9:56am

So you intentionally ground the ball just as long as your not being pressured?

BYU4eVeR

9:56am

That’s kind of the purpose of the penalty.

DudeBro

9:58am

No, the purpose of the penalty is to penalize intentional grounding. Doesn’t matter if it’s to avoid a sack or try to

mvtoro

9:59am

Watched the end of the Utah game.

BYU4eVeR

9:54am

I’m as frustrated with Retzlaff’s play as anybody. But one thing

Sir_Ten

9:47am

He has delivered on 3 game winning drives this year. Came up just short on two.

dfudge

9:53am

And he was moving. I was shocked how much ground he covered.

Boomcannon

9:59am

I think a big reason for the methodical pace on O this year has been Arod's

VACougMD

9:47am

Some of BYU's best QBs threw many more INTs than Jake has this year.

dfudge

9:54am

Detmer threw a ton of INTs, but just got back and threw TDs.

88Coug

10:02am

Playing injured or not - Retzlaff is pretty durable. He got blindsided....

jrifkin48

9:47am

My biggest takeaway from being at the game. Low football-IQ fans & Phoenix is…

BamaCoug

9:46am

Listening on the radio, I couldn’t tell who made a play based on the crowd.

Yukon

9:50am

Blog: Three Games Will Determine BYU's Big 12 Title Hopes Next Week View

[Cougs Daily]

9:43am

Kudos to BYU

VinnyBYU

9:43am

The scarier thing is there was also a lot of BYU fans left as well could have

ABCoug

9:46am

I was thinking the horror that might have happened if BYU scored.

Jay_L

9:51am

Amorim’s first match at United

Archaea

9:42am

Big 12 needs to get the pac 12 schools under control. Lots of disrespect towards

Powerbait DPM

9:41am

This is why I'm really upset they didn't flag Asu church and whitt...

runnincoug

9:43am

Meh

chrisoc13

9:44am

Greater penalties for rushing the field should be enforced as well.

NumbersGuy

9:49am

Biggest difference in the 2nd half was that the O played with tempo.

Moab Rising

9:36am

And even when they were trying to play with tempo, somehow they were snapping

foofcoug

9:40am

Yeah this is one of the biggest of all concerns

HRCougar

9:42am

And also the fact that ASU was playing a soft zone defense because they were up

DudeBro

9:45am

Favorite thing I heard from a drunk ASU student yesterday-

Kdubb

9:36am

Mine- Boy: “What even is a BYU?” Girl: “It’s like a soda. With creamer in it.”

ugo1st

9:39am

My gripe with Retzlaff..

BYU4eVeR

9:36am

My gripe is no touch. The rest of his game ai think is really good.

BYU71

9:37am

He also started catching snaps and throwing completely flat footed on a couple

LOLzzz

9:39am

Out routes and intermediate middle he's pretty good. Deep stuff is really bad currently. Composure not good.

GfB

9:41am

He’s good, not great. He’s also a junior and

Crowd Factor

9:42am

1. Accuracy. 2. Touch. 3. Batted balls. 4. Consistency

foofcoug

9:44am

5. Arm strength.

88Coug

9:45am

That’s not an issue with him

I'mBatman

9:53am

Not for 99% of the time. Only for a 47-yard Hail Mary that needs to be a 50-yard Hail Mary.

mvtoro

9:54am

That’s on Connor Pay, not Rezlaff

I'mBatman

9:58am

His arm strength is all he relies on…

LOLzzz

9:59am

Blog: No. 14 BYU Offensive Production Among Questions Answered Against No. 21 Arizona State View

[KSL Sports]

9:36am

BYU commit, Jane Hedengren, broke Jenna Hutchins’ high school 5k cross-country record (15:50).

CrimWalCoug All-American in practice

9:35am

My main issue with ARod’s Offense

CaliWG

9:34am

My main issue is tempo. When we play quicker, we are much better.

Cnation

9:35am

The tempo simplifies what defenses can call and forces them into more basic

CaliWG

9:39am

Completely agree! I’m shocked we haven’t changed to a little quicker pace.

Cnation

9:41am

My understanding is that the headset turns off in the helmet at 15 seconds

Yucaterco

9:52am

ARod struggles when we slow down. It's been a problem for years.

BYUtka

9:52am

I've been more of a supporter of JR than many but it's more of a QB problem

coug10278

9:36am

Agree- need an outlet pass to RB and appears to not have hot reads on blitzes

SwanSong

9:39am

Pretty much exactly what I’ve been saying

Sir_Ten

9:39am

So your problem with Arod is really a problem with coach Woods and oline?

runnincoug

9:46am

Few modern offenses are designed to convert 3rd & 4 or 5 via traditional runs

CaliWG

9:56am

It's not really a problem with the offense. It's a problem with our personnel

kccougar

9:50am

Prime Examples

lindoncoug

9:32am

I see what you did there

Kolobrdm

9:34am

What did ASU’s coach say?

kirkko

9:34am

<< Deleted >>

Kolobrdm

9:37am

Not repeatable here

AF Cougar

9:37am

Here you go

Kolobrdm

9:40am

That ASU HC is really unlikeable but do you think he is the one to finally

RC Vikings

9:30am

Nope. His fanbase is hollow. They were playing in an empty stadium 5 weeks ago.

Crazy Joe Davola

9:31am

But he’s activating the Valley!

ugo1st

9:40am

Even yesterday their student section had a lot of empty space in the southwest

Crowd Factor

9:49am

I'm not convinced they'll be anything after Scattebo graduates. Every coach for

vagabonder

9:41am

Bingo

ABCoug

9:47am

They have long been a school focused on diversity hires instead of quality hires

ugo1st

9:41am

We'll see what happens when his monster RB is in the NFL next year.

Moab Rising

9:45am

Article: BYU cruises past Mississippi Valley State in 44-point win View

[Deseret News]

9:28am

BYU’s defense isn’t aggressive anymore. Recording 3 sacks in the last 6 games.

Magneto

9:27am

The DL doesn't have the talent

machete

9:33am

The D does lead the country in interceptions though

machete

9:34am

I’m waiting all day for Sunday night 😞

DKN

9:27am

This is the third close game where Retzlaff threw an int that cost us the game

Cougs4Lfe

9:26am

Are you sure that this game ending INT was his fault?

CPAcoug87

9:29am

Retzlaff is a turnover machine. With as many picks as he throws, it's hard to...

Team Chaos

9:31am

I agree there have been plenty on him this year.

CPAcoug87

10:00am

Yes horrible throw. Straight to the DB

BYU4eVeR

9:41am

Your eyes do work right?

LOLzzz

9:46am

Do you understand how a route like that works?

CPAcoug87

9:59am

It’s a stretch to consider any play before halftime “costing us the game”

beefytee

9:29am

Against Oklahoma and yesterday it at least cost us any chance of winning but I

Cougs4Lfe

9:30am

I can name 3 games he won it

groy

9:40am

That’s sports man. When you play good teams, they’re gonna force you to make mistakes.

WDaddy

9:46am

What's the deal with Skattebo?

archie

9:24am

He said when he sweats his helmet feels like it's sticking to his face and he's shaking it loose. Doesn't with it off

Crazy Joe Davola

9:26am

He says his face/head sweats a lot and sticks to his helmet... or something like that

Underhill

9:26am

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bluecougar1985

9:26am

Sweat?

brj8

9:27am

He’s always done it. Likely a “tic”… maybe some mild version of Tourette’s.

BamaCoug

9:28am

You don’t sweat in Tempe. It just evaporates instantly with how dry it is.

Magneto

9:28am

He’s said he doesn’t like the feeling of helmet getting sweaty

Sir_Ten

9:32am

Dowant like his cheek pads sticking to his face. We looked it up during the game

fattycoug

9:34am

My Game Report

brj8 All-American

9:22am

Accurate.

coug719

9:24am

Tons of BYU fans on screen, espn commentators mentioned the turnout a few times

Avery

9:26am

Thanks for report. One thing for darn sure is you'd never see anything like item 6 at a Utah game...they'd

CLCougar

9:38am

Game activation was terrible.

ugo1st

9:45am

Thanks for the report!

BYU4eVeR

9:46am

Selling two tickets to Houston@BYU. Section 48, Row 29. SW Corner. Seatbacks

rivercitycoug

9:21am

Come on man. Last home game of the year!

TPcoug

9:25am

I’ll still be there but my kids won’t

rivercitycoug

9:26am

Take two young men for the ward. You can convert 2 kids into fans.

Magneto

9:29am

Article: What Arizona State coach Kenny Dillingham said after defeating BYU View

[Deseret News]

9:21am

Can the des news print those words

Crazy Joe Davola

9:22am

The contrast between Kalani on the field

BYU71

9:35am

POLL: How would you feel about BYU’s chances in a rematch with ASU?

CaliWG

9:20am

We’d smoke them. Of anyone we could play for the championship I’d choose them.

Chefcurry

9:22am

Are we going to tackle Scat this time?

coug10278

9:29am

First team B12, does BYU get any selections. Id think that Robert’s would be one

Magneto

9:20am

Roberts doesn’t have the stats

Beggar

9:21am

There is a lot of great B12 Wr too. McMillan, Hunter,

Magneto

9:26am

Glasker, Robinson & Etienne, possibly Kelly

CaliWG

9:22am

Glasker should get consideration

Kolipoki

9:22am

One of the worst parts about a season like this is that our Achilles heel, or

Crowd Factor

9:19am

We’re still a developing program in a P4 conference.

kirkko

9:21am

That’s fine. The point still remains.

Crowd Factor

9:27am

Whatever you do this next week…don’t make crazy bets about beefy burritos…

coug719

9:19am

Why didn't BYU play the 1st half w/ the intensity that they played the 2nd half?

Hinta

9:18am

This is BYU football. A full four quarters of good ball is not the norm

DavisCoCoug

9:19am

Coaching

Beggar

9:19am

What do you think that looks like? Do you think the coaches told them to play

Polecat

9:24am

This has been happening now for 8+ years, the only consistent factor is Kalani, so do the math

Coug

9:32am

I’ve seen Kalani’s teams get excited plenty of times. Including I’d say…. 10.5

Polecat

9:35am

To get to the other side? I give up. I dunno. Why?

Crowd Factor

9:19am

I’m sure they tried their best to.

Polecat

9:20am

Cause this offense’s identity has been slow and deliberate all year

HRCougar

9:21am

There’s the $10,000 question.

Borg

9:21am

Ha! You really think that

xgbs

9:30am

Coaching coaching coaching coaching

Coug

9:31am

My observation: 2nd half they sat in position groups, huddled around iPads &

sparky

9:37am

Utes are way too good for this truck stop conference.

Mr. Belding Truly Addicted User

9:17am

True. They wouldn’t have wanted to play in any of these truck stop bowls

Polecat

9:18am

Every wrench and socket set should have 3 10mm sockets and 1 of everything else. Needs to happen.

CSoul Hardcore Democrat

9:16am

You know what's dumb? Metric sockets still have imperial drives 1/4" 3/8" 1/2"

foofcoug

9:20am

They could... But then you d have to have double the drivers

Gunga Galunga

9:26am

IOW, imperial is better.

foofcoug

9:31am

And at least 5 1/2 sockets

crimedog

9:34am

Article: How can BYU earn a Big 12 championship game berth in the regular season’s final week? View

[Deseret News]

9:14am

Has anyone explained how there were penalties at the end of yesterday’s game?

Texas Hammer Amazon’s favorite customer

9:14am

If the refs signaled that the game was over, then I have a hard time penalizing

Yukon

9:16am

Which refs signaled it was over? Announced immediately it was under review.

coug10278

9:21am

I don’t know. I said “if”.

Yukon

9:25am

I'd say the reverse. Should have called grounding but not unsportsmanlike.

Roko's Basilisk

9:16am

This^ is what I came here to say

775coug

9:17am

The out of control behavior of the ASU coach should have resulted in an

Rocketman

9:30am

Seriously, let them review it. If you’re right, the review will prove it.

Yukon

9:32am

The last two games feel very reminiscent to the last two games to end last year.

idcougarfan

9:12am

And killer turnovers at critical times

LV Mike

9:12am

True

Japan Coug

9:13am

Do you think his game prep was different than games we were winning?

NYCougz

9:15am

Honestly still blows my mind, that last ASU throw is textbook grounding..

GhostRider

9:11am

They called the exact thing on Utah in a crucial situation.

idcougarfan

9:12am

Yes, saw that play too.

GhostRider

9:16am

We were happy to be in the big 12, but not anymore

McMax

9:15am

I lived in Nebraska and their primary complaint in the Big 12 was refereeing

kirkko

9:28am

What yard line was the spot of the foul?

oxcoug

9:22am

Threw it from the 41, basically would’ve given us en extra 10 yards

GhostRider

9:26am

And I think you get those seconds back that the ball was in the air too? IDK…

BamaCoug

9:35am

That’s what I kept saying grounding puts the ball at the spot of the penalty and

kirkko

9:25am

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*Language warning* I lost a lot of respect for ASU's coach here...as well as the

Put this in your pipe and smoke it: if next week byu, Colo, ASU, ISU all lose

Help me become more like this man

From the ESPN article on the game:

If the refs had called intentional grounding and then added 15 yards for the coach’s obscenity-laced temper tantrum

Some jerk was going around tapping BYU fans on the head while he was walking by

Call me crazy BUT

Thoughts on the game start with this: it's great to have Hall back.

Jake made the wrong read on his last pick

Doesn't matter what happens from here on out. Win, lose. CCG, no CCG. Playoff,

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