Outsized performance against a storied program that performed well below its talent rating not just against Utah but against others during the past several years.

I just find it odd some are lamenting the loss of a rivalry. USC and others don’t see it.

My other point, not completely written out, was that long-term rivalries go through swings of lopsidedness. Utah crowed about its dominance in talent and notoriety when we were historically hobbled and most games were close. tOSU dominated Michigan with similar talent. Just adding perspective.

Is Oregon state lameniing the loss of the rivalry when they beat Utah 2-3?

And I stand by my Caleb Williams not being a winner though a great athlete.