The decline started long before BYU got into the B-12.

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May 9, 2024
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Soy Celeste All-American

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Soy Celeste

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Baseball has struggled for several years now. Any ideas on how to fix it?

statguru

May 9, 9:08pm

recruit better players

Supercoug

May 9, 9:14pm

The entire system seems off kilter, but without more insight into

Archaea

May 9, 9:15pm

For many years BYU had a solid baseball program. It all changed a few years ago.

Soy Celeste

May 9, 9:21pm

Seems like it is worse since the last coach left suddenly and without much explanation.

PJMort

May 9, 9:23pm

I’m sure it’s not coincidental. Makes you wonder.

Soy Celeste

May 9, 9:25pm

Playing in a much better league. Even Littlewood only had a few good

molodyets

May 9, 9:27pm

The decline started long before BYU got into the B-12.

Soy Celeste

May 9, 9:32pm

And before the coaching change. We haven’t had a consistent program

molodyets

May 9, 9:33pm

The program hasn't had the umph it once had. Practice facilities need

Archaea

May 9, 9:37pm

Trent played his college ball at ASU and Auburn, then spent time in minor league ball across the country. He’s had ample

Zach Morris

May 9, 10:17pm

He has made a lot of mistakes

Archaea

May 9, 10:20pm

You could be right. I don’t know baseball well enough to critique it on that level and you very well could…

Zach Morris

May 9, 10:22pm

There were days when BYu made it to the college World Series

Archaea

May 9, 11:34pm

There it is! Arch calling for Pratt’s job. Just a matter of time

SJS

May 10, 6:50am

I have been hard on baseball coaches

Archaea

May 10, 7:49am

You called for Pratt's firing almost immediately after he got the job

SJS

May 10, 8:02am

I doubt that.

Archaea

May 10, 8:50am

We know very well who you don't like.

SJS

May 10, 9:33am

Remember… it can always get worse when firing coaches

1984coug

May 9, 9:58pm

It can get worse than last place? Interesting.

Defrueblue

May 9, 10:10pm

Agree. Will never win the Big 12, but last place is unacceptable.

Kennesaw Cougar

May 10, 12:36am

I wasn’t trying to be critical of the current coach— it seems like there was a big problem and it is taking time to fix.

PJMort

May 10, 6:46am

Littlewood was NOT good for BYU. His firing was a good thing. Give Pratt time.

WabiSabi

May 10, 7:06am

global warming. when your state is playing 15 less games in high school than

FieroCoug

May 9, 9:22pm

I mean, they can go recruit those kids right?

SnickSnack

May 9, 9:51pm

yeah but BYU has to compete with the SEC and a bunch of the big 12 and ACC for

FieroCoug

May 9, 10:05pm

Recruiting outside of Utah!

jr0b44

May 10, 5:45am

easier said than done. BYU isn’t gonna get a full competitive roster of

FieroCoug

May 10, 1:36pm

Why would they want to play in the snow?

johnnybyu

May 9, 11:26pm

Lady Cougs play in the same snow. Have had much more success than baseball team

Kennesaw Cougar

May 10, 12:41am

softball is much less competitive nationally than baseball. lots more

FieroCoug

May 10, 12:59am

RE: softball is much less competitive nationally than baseball. lots more

SweetCarrots

May 10, 6:56am

I think he is saying softball in general is less competitive so BYU can compete

johnnybyu

May 10, 8:05am

And what does he offer to support that?

Archaea

May 10, 8:52am

almost twice as many kids play baseball than softball

FieroCoug

May 10, 1:34pm

Yeah way to diminish the ladies accomplishments.

Archaea

May 10, 8:52am

This is just not true. I coach High School Softball in Oregon. In the smaller

SnickSnack

May 10, 9:41am

That doesn't account for it though since other cold areas do well

krindorr

May 10, 5:00am

Gotta speed up the game significantly. It’s an awesome game but WAY too slow.

BlooCoug

May 9, 9:39pm

I get what you are saying but how do you explain the very lucrative tv /

Soy Celeste

May 9, 10:02pm

Relocate to a warmer climate

dreamer

May 9, 9:41pm

You would need more LDS families okay with their son’s playing on Sundays

RC Vikings

May 9, 10:18pm

That’s a problem too.

Archaea

May 9, 10:21pm

And double headers on Saturday for that matter. One game is fun 2 is bluh

johnnybyu

May 9, 11:27pm

Put a 2nd baseball field in St George. Warmth, picturesque, remote learning, etc

Ripliancum

May 10, 12:53am

Don’t have your head coach . . . Well, I’ll just leave it at that.

Scratch

May 9, 11:05pm

We don't bunt the ball. Look at the game today, Bearcats down 1 and they bunt on

Uno Doctoro

May 9, 11:20pm

1. Have to recruit better pitching 2. Have to make more contact at plate.

Kennesaw Cougar

May 10, 12:23am

RE: Baseball has struggled for several years now. Any ideas on how to fix it?

TheAirForceCoug

May 10, 4:50am

Rain and cold weather can be a factor but it can be overcome. Oregon State...

PacificNW

May 10, 5:40am

Open a campus down in/around Mesa and transfer the team down there for winters?

BackPacker

May 10, 7:33am

First they need an indoor facility for practice and for games

BYU Grounds

May 10, 8:07am

not saying its feasible or will happen but that is what they need but I do like the idea of moving them to St. George

BYU Grounds

May 10, 9:14am

they've struggled for decades it seems.

niqmadu

May 10, 8:28am

Move BYU to Texas or Florida

Cooouuugs

May 10, 8:35am

I've lived in Utah for about 30 years and I really can't remember a time that BYU baseball was good or generating any

Spiff

May 10, 8:48am

You are right Spiff. Back in the 60s, 70s, 80s and early 90s BYU dominated the WAC

BYU Grounds

May 10, 8:55am

Yes 1983 was a great year Wally Joyner, ranked #1 but lost in the CWS 41 yrs ago

wildwilderness

May 10, 9:54am

I was around 12 & dad took me to the ASU playoff gm-only college or pro gm...

wickedgame71

May 10, 11:01am

They did not make the CWS that year. Last time was 1971

Bluforever

May 10, 11:47am

Iorg brothers were fun to watch back then.

Les IsMore

May 10, 12:31pm

Yes. Know them well.

Bluforever

May 10, 3:30pm

Correct, meant playoffs

wildwilderness

May 10, 3:11pm

IMO baseball is not one of the sports…

docrick

May 10, 9:36am

That's crazy talk. Lots of elite LDS baseball players out there. We haven't been getting the top of the

Bob Vance

May 10, 9:56am

I’m not saying there aren’t elite LDS baseball players

docrick

May 10, 10:17am

Well, yes, the pool is a little thiner than the broader recruiting base partly due to draft out of high school

Bob Vance

May 10, 10:23am

Plenty of LDS high level baseball players have been ignored outside of Utah.

jr0b44

May 10, 10:00am

Fire law, right?

travelcoug

May 10, 9:50am

BYU guys used to come to Alaska for summer league play. I remember watching...

icecougar

May 10, 10:28am

My FIL was on the Glacier Pilots for their first 2 seasons!

wildwilderness

May 10, 11:36am

Holy Moley! what was his name??

icecougar

May 10, 6:35pm

Move the school to a warmer part of the country.

Mitty

May 10, 10:48am

^^^^ Bingo! LOL!

DawgHaus

May 10, 11:04am

Pine tar.

King of Y

May 10, 11:47am

Easy: 1. Move closer to sea level. 2. Move closer to Mexico

Underhill

May 10, 12:10pm

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