But I’m not just talking about this year either. I know there are excuses, but 1 conf finals trip and 1 title over 5-6 years does not make me think greatest peak. LeBron has his shortcomings, but he always got his team to the finals during his peak. Jordan won 6 of 8.

The nuggets being so bad when Jokic doesn’t play just reminds me of the Nash suns or the Gobert Jazz. Both those teams built their entire system around one player and the system didn’t work when that player was off the court. Jokic is obviously better than those 2, but I think it’s the same principle. Jokic just is their entire identity and they have none when he’s on the bench.