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Oct 14, 2017
10:59:12pm

Nat Gas Man All-American

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Nat Gas Man

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AND, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THE INCREASED REVENUE BANNER WE NOW HANG

CougarMike

10/13/17 2:45pm

RE: AND, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THE INCREASED REVENUE BANNER WE NOW HANG

Martin Van Nostrand

10/13/17 2:46pm

As someone who grew up in an era where BYU won the WAC title each and every season

Indy Coug

10/13/17 2:47pm

Remember the old Big 8 Conference?

CougarMike

10/13/17 2:51pm

Way back in 1995? Yeah.

Indy Coug

10/13/17 2:52pm

I played on 4 WAC championship teams, and how we did,

CougarMike

10/13/17 2:55pm

And Indy Coug could careless about your contributions in winning those

Cougarfan777

10/13/17 4:16pm

eyeroll

Unibro

10/13/17 4:18pm

Twist words beyond recognition much?

gwalker

10/13/17 4:57pm

Nothing twisted at all. He stated that he "lived through all those WAC titles

Cougarfan777

10/13/17 5:05pm

Dude. You're not being remotely reasonable. I grew up during all those

gwalker

10/13/17 5:09pm

You are missing the point....

Cougarfan777

10/13/17 5:40pm

In the MWC era for BYU, how many championships did we win over how many years?

MarylandFan

10/13/17 10:22pm

I think we could all care less. We're actually very appreciative of those contributions

MaxxPower

10/14/17 6:00am

I agree. A conference championship is a great thing. Just not the

chazen

10/13/17 4:56pm

Whoa, whoa, whoa, BYU is 1-5.

The Board Genius

10/13/17 2:52pm

RE: Whoa, whoa, whoa, BYU is 1-5.

Indy Coug

10/13/17 2:54pm

It was filled with Oklahoma, Texas and a bunch of nobodies

CougarMike

10/13/17 2:53pm

Big 8? Nobody’s?

Cougtruth

10/13/17 3:11pm

Sorry. The old Big 8 and Southwestern Conferences were similar in having

CougarMike

10/13/17 3:19pm

They won the National Championship many times

pappabear246

10/13/17 10:02pm

Nebraska alumn here. A little offended. Sniff.

PJMort

10/13/17 9:58pm

Disagree. It has always been a thing and every school brags about their conf.

Jericho

10/13/17 3:04pm

I disagree. My pissing and moaning about independence started well before this

JarJarBeeps

10/13/17 4:22pm

We do compete for a Conf Title in basketball, just can't win one

Jacob

10/13/17 4:27pm

I did and still do! We touted that under Lavell. He won 20 out of 29.

BlueForLife

10/13/17 4:33pm

But winning the WAC put us in the Holiday bowls, and gave us the chance to win

Cougarfan777

10/13/17 4:34pm

Just win baby! That will solve it. Conf or Indy. Got to win.

Dr MoBYU

10/13/17 4:49pm

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DaCougEye

10/13/17 5:03pm

RE: AND, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THE INCREASED REVENUE BANNER WE NOW HANG

CSoul

10/13/17 2:47pm

RE: AND, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THE INCREASED REVENUE BANNER WE NOW HANG

Ode to Hoy

10/13/17 2:48pm

RE: AND, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THE INCREASED REVENUE BANNER WE NOW HANG

Broda

10/13/17 2:51pm

Deep breath

cougfanz

10/13/17 2:52pm

RE: AND, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THE INCREASED REVENUE BANNER WE NOW HANG

IceBlueCoug

10/13/17 2:52pm

RE: AND, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THE INCREASED REVENUE BANNER WE NOW HANG

Niiineteeen84

10/13/17 2:53pm

The only person that cares about Conference Championships is Kyle Gunther and that dude is a dweeb

IceBlueCoug

10/13/17 2:53pm

RE: AND, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THE INCREASED REVENUE BANNER WE NOW HANG

Crush4

10/13/17 2:54pm

RE: AND, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THE INCREASED REVENUE BANNER WE NOW HANG

hxmCougar2000

10/13/17 2:59pm

RE: AND, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THE INCREASED REVENUE BANNER WE NOW HANG

cheezedawg

10/13/17 3:03pm

You want sports or not....cut the money and all sports are gone...it is that

Nat Gas Man

10/13/17 3:04pm

Duh, but football pays for itself and a lot more Olympic sports.

CougarMike

10/13/17 3:12pm

you can't have just FB...it doesn't work that way in the NCAA

Nat Gas Man

10/13/17 3:19pm

Title IX, not NCAA. So, if it is just about money

CougarMike

10/13/17 3:27pm

NCAA rule of a minimum of 14 sports, not counting what the AAC would require...=

Nat Gas Man

10/13/17 3:31pm

How about $10M vs. $1M? How do you plan to pay for volleyball, women's BB,

Rocketman

10/13/17 8:54pm

We always made it work. Many universities make it work with less.

canofpicante

10/13/17 4:04pm

Costs have gone way up in the last 5 years...name a school that makes it work

Nat Gas Man

10/13/17 4:07pm

You want me to audit all NCAA teams? I really don't have that kind of time.

canofpicante

10/14/17 10:00pm

it's actually public data from the DOE

Nat Gas Man

10/14/17 10:59pm

Well, rummage through it and tell me what you find

canofpicante

10/15/17 8:37pm

If you think that is the only reason for indepedence, you are ignoring the rest

LifeLongLakerFan

10/13/17 3:04pm

Exactly.

Gentleman Stan

10/13/17 3:49pm

This mentality sucks...

Cougarfan777

10/13/17 4:27pm

That's not the mentality and if you think it is then

CMuehle

10/13/17 4:47pm

We have been a G5 for 100 years. Then Utah moved up and we were left out. All

Cougarfan777

10/13/17 4:56pm

See, I think I'm beginning to understand you guys.

CMuehle

10/13/17 5:02pm

Spot on. Most of us aren't wired that way. Which is why there are so few of them. This huge letdown in football

Gentleman Stan

10/13/17 5:16pm

So why are we playing Portland St., Utah St., Fresno St., San Jose St,

Cougarfan777

10/13/17 5:25pm

2 or 3 more games against P5s is better than

CMuehle

10/13/17 5:42pm

I see how you ignored the basketball program being banished to the WCC,

Cougarfan777

10/13/17 5:49pm

Banished? The MWC was, for a few years, a very good league. It's less than the WCC

Gentleman Stan

10/13/17 7:44pm

In the last 10 years 7 different MWC bball teams have qualified for the NCAA

Cougarfan777

10/13/17 8:56pm

The MWC is presently a double digit auto bid league with bad tv.

Gentleman Stan

10/13/17 10:46pm

Sorry, C. While we won WAC championships, we also beat TAMU, Wisconsin, SMU

CougarMike

10/13/17 9:00pm

Hear hear

BYUSwoop

10/14/17 1:49pm

If you ask average Joe sports guy they might still think we’re WAC or MWC Indy

franklyvulgar

10/13/17 6:38pm

No it doesn't. I don't have anything else to say on that.

LifeLongLakerFan

10/13/17 6:04pm

Our football independent record is far from horrendous.

jkccoug

10/13/17 7:44pm

Problem is the way we have to schedule as an Indy "when we are winning" still hasn't happened to a big enough degree and

byuTX

10/14/17 4:59am

I'd rather have Mountain America and Vivint dumping money into the program

Pimpin4Paradise

10/13/17 3:06pm

I wish Ricks still had a team. Then you could root for them playing

Bullrider

10/13/17 3:30pm

I would lose interest in the program if we weren't playing interesting teams

8-track

10/13/17 3:44pm

winning would solve all of these so-called problems and we would get respect

Colorado

10/13/17 4:11pm

So you just became a fan 3 years ago? Because what you just described was

Memmo

10/13/17 4:41pm

No. Before independence TCU and Utah

8-track

10/13/17 6:12pm

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8-track

10/13/17 6:14pm

And I’ll add that while I was always a fan

8-track

10/13/17 6:16pm

Sucking at football is killing interest in the program. If we were a good team

jkccoug

10/13/17 4:18pm

How does this have POTD nominations? Regardless of how one feels about

gwalker

10/13/17 4:55pm

Because the G5 honks don't understand that.

Gentleman Stan

10/13/17 5:17pm

You say we need money for all that stuff, or else the gulf widens. What about

CougarMike

10/13/17 9:05pm

Amen and amen!!!

byuguns55

10/13/17 4:59pm

Reality check: We’re 0-2 in the MWC & out of the champ race w/ zero 2

BamaCoug

10/13/17 5:04pm

You are too smart of dude to not think through the variables...

Cougarfan777

10/13/17 6:02pm

You can’t tell me that BYU somwhow

8-track

10/13/17 7:36pm

this "they have nothing to play for" nonsense is completely de-bunked in this 2014 clip

HarlemCoug

10/13/17 11:32pm

Exactly

pappabear246

10/14/17 9:19pm

That's awesome. You are exactly right

MaxxPower

10/15/17 6:57pm

A conf championship in the MWC now that Utah and TCU left would mean little

D.T. Survivor

10/13/17 5:41pm

SDSU and BSU beg to differ

franklyvulgar

10/13/17 6:45pm

Either of them would give up what they have to be in the spot BYU is in.

Lance71

10/13/17 7:25pm

For the money or the prestige of being Indy?

franklyvulgar

10/13/17 8:02pm

Money, TV, reputation, etc....

Lance71

10/14/17 5:36pm

You’re right about SDSU, but they have never been perennially good

D.T. Survivor

10/14/17 12:26am

RE: AND, NOBODY GIVES A CRAP ABOUT THE INCREASED REVENUE BANNER WE NOW HANG

Abe Froman

10/13/17 6:34pm

We'd have a lot more to play for if we were 1-5 in the MWC, for sure

ArchbishopMitty

10/13/17 8:42pm

I hate to break the news to you but at 1-5 we would

pappabear246

10/13/17 10:04pm

*Starts to agree, then remembers how bad it sucked in the MWC, trying to watch

Bluedarts

10/14/17 1:41am

The Mtn is gone.

mwc tex

10/14/17 9:20am

Nobody gives a crap about our team this year anyway, whether Indy or MWC.

BlueForLife

10/14/17 1:43pm

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