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Aug 26, 2014
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BarraCouga
He got hired as a HC in high school. That's a hire...and not from Bronco.
If you're going to count a position coach at a JC, you should at least count a head coach at high school.
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Blog: Is Nick Howell the Next Coach at BYU?
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[Lawless Republic]
Jake Hadlock
8/26/14 6:05am
What about 2J? He actually has HC experience.
flyusaf
8/26/14 6:07am
Out of the two....Nick or 2J
Heinz57
8/26/14 6:10am
I remember when Chow was the heir apperent. could you imagine
stonecougar
8/26/14 6:12am
Agreed - Nick needs to leave the state of Utah one time in his life.
oxcoug
8/26/14 6:16am
I agree. I'd have no problem with him being the guy if he succeeds elsewhere too
BarraCouga
8/26/14 6:24am
Sure, right after Doman.
cougarick
8/26/14 6:08am
What unbelievably stupid speculation.
oxcoug
8/26/14 6:15am
Just what BYU needs: Break new ground by hiring the first ever
oxcoug
8/26/14 6:20am
Amen brother Ox, amen!!
Heinz57
8/26/14 6:22am
Think of the good publicity we would get if we hired the first Woman HC
HighHorse
8/26/14 6:28am
ESPN would pick us up for another 7 years for sure!
IndependentGeorge
8/26/14 6:42am
Hadn't thought of this - first openly gay HC?
oxcoug
8/26/14 6:48am
Even better. This will get us an invite into the PAC-12.
IndependentGeorge
8/26/14 6:53am
First openly gay women HC.
maxpowers
8/26/14 10:43am
Don't forget color
Sportsroof
8/26/14 11:09am
The playing college football is just short of irrelevant to me.
BarraCouga
8/26/14 6:38am
I hear your POV here - but there's a reason it's never happened
oxcoug
8/26/14 6:42am
He actually went to Snow College to play football and received a major.......
Anubius31
8/26/14 6:52am
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Anubius31
8/26/14 6:54am
OK. Not to be dismissive, but basically that means
oxcoug
8/26/14 7:05am
Point taken. Just was pointing out a fact that very few people know
Anubius31
8/26/14 7:07am
Don't leave out Gary Anderson
digitalayon
8/26/14 9:11am
Summary of the logic found in this blog post:
oxcoug
8/26/14 6:40am
I like Sitake. I'd kind of like him to go somewhere else first...
BarraCouga
8/26/14 6:47am
I would bring in Kalani...
Heinz57
8/26/14 6:49am
Is this the same Sitake who has never lived outside KWhitt's shadow?
cougarick
8/26/14 6:50am
1. Sitake played college football; 2. He was a GA at BYU; 3. He coached at S.
oxcoug
8/26/14 7:03am
What was I thinking discounting that long and distinguished coaching career
cougarick
8/26/14 7:35am
Hah, OK - you can say "Sitake and Howell are the same, except not
oxcoug
8/26/14 7:45am
I really don't care where you interned. I just don't. If you do, that's you.
cougarick
8/26/14 8:07am
Howell's rise seems less impressive to someone familiar with BYU and some of
russkiejedi
8/26/14 8:11am
And KWhitt has a great reputation for hiring coordinators?
cougarick
8/26/14 8:16am
Ouch. That one's going to leave a mark...
BarraCouga
8/26/14 8:20am
Haven't seen much of a problem with his DC hiring. Sitake is a well-regarded
russkiejedi
8/26/14 8:24am
Honestly, it's a moot point. If Bronco quit tomorrow, it would be Anae.
BarraCouga
8/26/14 8:28am
Who "hates" Howell? Being skeptical of his resume and his meteoric rise from GA
russkiejedi
8/26/14 8:37am
You must not have been around the board much.
BarraCouga
8/26/14 8:45am
I'm on the board all the time. Surely if it's so obvious, you can easily point
russkiejedi
8/26/14 8:58am
I could share some boardmails I have...but I won't.
BarraCouga
8/26/14 9:05am
But this thread hasn't been about hating Nick Howell. It's been about the
russkiejedi
8/26/14 9:11am
The hating comes from refuting the article.
BarraCouga
8/26/14 9:25am
That would all be true
if he hadn't already gotten a job well above what
russkiejedi
8/26/14 9:34am
And if you were a professional, I'd say your opinion on his resume' matters.
BarraCouga
8/26/14 9:39am
Poll every single head coach in DI about where they'd think a guy with Nick
russkiejedi
8/26/14 9:49am
Skepticism is fine. You will note, every post of mine on this has skepticism.
BarraCouga
8/26/14 9:53am
Again, aside from a few boardmailers, who is "trashing the guy?"
russkiejedi
8/26/14 9:58am
I said the Howell hatred baffles me. You admit it exists. It still baffles me.
BarraCouga
8/26/14 10:04am
You responded to my post with "I don't understand the hate."
russkiejedi
8/26/14 10:51am
And I still don't and won't understand the hate. But you can keep asking.
BarraCouga
8/26/14 10:55am
So it's blatantly obvious that you're one of Nick close relatives, the
marriottcoug
8/26/14 2:12pm
I've been traveling the world in the Army for the past 25 years.
BarraCouga
8/26/14 2:23pm
Nick is a "mini me" of Bronco....
Heinz57
8/26/14 8:42am
That Sitake and Howell are the "only" options for HC in 10-15 years is a reach,
randomplay
8/26/14 8:45am
Which is why I said "IF" the resume' supports it.
BarraCouga
8/26/14 8:48am
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BarraCouga
8/26/14 8:46am
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BarraCouga
8/26/14 10:01am
I certainly hope it wouldnt be anae.
El Joffrey
8/26/14 10:31am
Except for Utah's defense regressing every single season that Sitake's been the
cougarick
8/26/14 8:37am
That regression has coincided with a significant increase in schedule strength.
russkiejedi
8/26/14 8:40am
Not the first two years he regressed their D as DC, and it's debatable if there
cougarick
8/26/14 9:01am
If you've been able to convince yourself that Howell and Sitake have comparable
russkiejedi
8/26/14 9:18am
It's not "convincing," it just is. One is simply further along than the other,
cougarick
8/26/14 9:39am
Good grief. I suppose if you narrow the scope of the argument far enough, it's
russkiejedi
8/26/14 9:55am
I've focused on what's going to qualify them to maybe one day be considered for
cougarick
8/26/14 10:04am
Who is talking about internships? Sitake was a position coach at Eastern AZ, and
russkiejedi
8/26/14 10:48am
Ruskie, we're both just gonna have to roll our eyes and agree to disagree
cougarick
8/26/14 11:05am
There you go again. He was a position coach in two programs
oxcoug
8/26/14 9:28am
Position coach at a podunk college vs HC at a HS. The difference is HUGE!!!!!
cougarick
8/26/14 9:42am
Yeah, actually it is. Howell has only ever been evaluated or promoted by one
oxcoug
8/26/14 9:53am
He got hired as a HC in high school. That's a hire...and not from Bronco.
BarraCouga
8/26/14 9:59am
I know I'm not supposed to say this here but right now
Walter Bellhaven
8/26/14 7:22am
historically, the outside hires have all been bad. Not that it guarantees it
BlueK
8/26/14 8:55am
Sample size of 1?
Walter Bellhaven
8/26/14 9:19am
Lavell was an inside hire.
Accipiter
8/26/14 9:36am
Sample size of 2?
Walter Bellhaven
8/26/14 9:38am
If I give you more you'll just count... right?
Accipiter
8/26/14 9:41am
A sample size of one in the modern era of college football =
oxcoug
8/26/14 9:55am
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Abe Froman
8/26/14 7:39am
Great on-field product
gustav88
8/26/14 8:25am
Please no. Some of our promotions from within are crazy enough as it is.
southernfriedcougar
8/26/14 8:19am
and yet the article makes an interesting point about outside hires for HC at BYU
BlueK
8/26/14 9:01am
You think that's an interesting point? Strikes me as an irrelevant point since
oxcoug
8/26/14 9:51am
That's also the same virtually as Lavell. I think he was hired maybe 2 years
Accipiter
8/26/14 9:59am
This whole article is pointless and stupid
ManicBlue
8/26/14 9:08am
all true
BlueK
8/26/14 9:09am
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever....
Smoke Monster
8/26/14 9:08am
Ken Nuimatalolo... he would be my first call.
Accipiter
8/26/14 11:47am
THIS! Niumatalolo or Sitake all the way.
doctorthunderpants
8/26/14 12:18pm
Isn't Anae the next head coach?
gobyu
8/26/14 11:55am
Head coaching pedigree: Zero.
Mars
8/26/14 12:02pm
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