Retzlaff, Etienne, Keim, Marion, Kingston, Nelson, Mangelson, Glasker, Wall--all

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Jan 9, 2025
9:20:01am

Six Foot Seven All-American

made dramatic improvements over their play in 2023. Calling it some CB-borne fantasy is idiotic.

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Six Foot Seven

Previous username: Hoosier Coug
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Time

BYU QBs who made big improvements from the junior to senior season

Indy Coug Loquacious Lummox

Jan 9, 8:52am

I think you have seen the best of Jake. I just want to see him work on..

WJCougar

Jan 9, 8:54am

Well, at least he recovered his own fumbles when he had them. Utah and Colorado

foofcoug

Jan 9, 8:55am

the one at Utah was very lucky.

fulano

Jan 9, 10:24am

I was there live so I haven't rewatched it, but it looked like it would have

byubyu

Jan 9, 10:31am

I dont get this sentiment, how are you calling the top of Jakes development?

cakewarrior

Jan 9, 9:04am

CB has this fantasy that players make this huge leap their next year.

WJCougar

Jan 9, 9:08am

Retzlaff, Etienne, Keim, Marion, Kingston, Nelson, Mangelson, Glasker, Wall--all

Six Foot Seven

Jan 9, 9:20am

You have this fantasy that you know that he won't.

VenomFarmer

Jan 9, 1:23pm

So what more do you think he can do?

WJCougar

Jan 9, 3:15pm

Why practice at all if improvement is impossible

ColonelMustard

Jan 9, 8:44pm

Never said he was bad...but honestly...what do you think he will improve.

WJCougar

Jan 9, 9:06pm

Go cheer for someone else.

Six Foot Seven

Jan 9, 9:25pm

Mechanics, height, deep ball accuracy, touch (fades, wheel routes).

BYU '80

Jan 9, 9:08am

It’s too late for his mechanics

arizonacougarfan

Jan 9, 9:21am

Accuracy and touch can absolutely be fixed lol. What even is that question?

arcawley

Jan 9, 10:43am

Seriously

ColonelMustard

Jan 9, 8:44pm

And situation management. He was better earlier at doing this.

B Blue

Jan 9, 11:56am

Fewer

oilman

Jan 9, 12:30pm

2025 won't be Jake's last season. So not sure your comparisons are apt

kimdaddy35

Jan 9, 8:55am

I'm glad that's already been determined with 100% certainty

Indy Coug

Jan 9, 8:56am

Where do you think he is going?

kimdaddy35

Jan 9, 8:57am

Jake hasn't been granted more eligibility yet

WJCougar

Jan 9, 9:01am

I think the chances of him not being in school then are slim. But I could be wrong.

kimdaddy35

Jan 9, 9:06am

They granted Jr College players eligibility for next year but...

WJCougar

Jan 9, 9:30am

*not yet, we will see what happens.

kimdaddy35

Jan 9, 9:36am

Thus why I already said yet

WJCougar

Jan 9, 3:20pm

Jake will be an RS Sophomore

2FarGone

Jan 9, 8:59am

Yea but if he has a good year next session, he's gone. Basically a Sr

ocmyhome

Jan 9, 9:06am

Why? He’s not an nfl qb for sure

BYU '80

Jan 9, 9:09am

RE: Yea but if he has a good year next session, he's gone. Basically a Sr

kimdaddy35

Jan 9, 9:15am

Wait is this a for sure thing for JC players now? Or just that one player

ColonelMustard

Jan 9, 8:46pm

Is there a list of QBs that fizzled, faded or didn't improve from Jr to Sr year?

byuod

Jan 9, 9:35am

Some were so good their junior years that they basically maintained in their senior years

Indy Coug

Jan 9, 9:46am

True! Wish that was our status.

byuod

Jan 9, 9:51am

Riley Nelson. And Tanner Mangum got progressively worse each year

arizonacougarfan

Jan 9, 9:53am

I wonder how many of those had thrown nearly 1400 passes after high school

BGRTHNUMEGO

Jan 9, 10:40am

We’ve already seen Jake play at a higher level during October.

ldssdl

Jan 9, 1:27pm

I think that part is on coaches like Arod to manage better...

icecougar

Jan 9, 2:14pm

Agreed. QB is the most important position in football. Why doesn't BYU have a

ldssdl

Jan 9, 2:22pm

especially now that we're getting p4 money and the NCAA has loosened rules...

icecougar

Jan 9, 2:31pm

You’re right. There is a point where the game “clicked” for many BYU QBs:

Cougulator

Jan 9, 10:03pm

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