The head coach can absolutely tell the OC what to do, and he is going to have

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I really dislike the slow pace of the offense, for several reasons.

acadian8 All-American

12/17/24 4:59pm

#2 is your only valid point if any substance.

Cougarbib

12/17/24 5:06pm

Maybe not #1, but #3 certainly is. Slower paces result in an average margin of

BYUCLA

12/17/24 5:47pm

Neither make a big difference because more possessions for O puts our D out for

Cougarbib

12/17/24 7:01pm

10-2

Cougarclaw

12/17/24 5:07pm

And the biggest loss was in big part because of slow pace

I'mBatman

12/17/24 5:29pm

The biggest loss was from giving up 3 quick TDs and an onsides kick.

Cougarbib

12/17/24 7:03pm

Such a narrow-minded comment…

LOLzzz

12/17/24 5:30pm

I completely fail to understand why CBers want to downplay our record. For some strange reason so many are unsatisfied

HarlemCoug

12/17/24 5:43pm

Being 10-2 means we lost twice and the offense was a key part of those losses

arcawley

12/17/24 6:25pm

The D and ST were at least as big a part of those losses. 3 TDs in 1st half.

Cougarbib

12/17/24 7:06pm

I’m not downplaying the record. I said two things can be good at the same time.

LOLzzz

12/17/24 8:32pm

I don't understand the desire to use it as a talisman against any and all

russkiejedi

12/18/24 8:15pm

RE: Such a narrow-minded comment…

Cougarclaw

12/17/24 6:12pm

It’s also narrow minded to dismiss the fact that byu overperformed, and it

cougaman

12/17/24 7:47pm

Pat on the back to those who are content with almost excellent. 10-2 beat preseason expectations, 10-2 was below

unctoothman

12/17/24 8:50pm

So you aren’t going to give any credit on the wins to a slow paced offense and

cougaman

12/17/24 8:53pm

No the disconnect is that people are saying you have to be happy with a 10-2

LOLzzz

12/17/24 9:03pm

That's exactly what I'm saying. You do have to be happy with a 10-2. If you're not, then you're doing BYU football wrong

HarlemCoug

12/17/24 9:08pm

I can be happy w/ 10-2 & upset that we lost the last 2/3. Not mutually exclusive

arcawley

12/17/24 9:14pm

Enjoy your participation trophy 😂

LOLzzz

12/17/24 9:17pm

Sure there is room for improvement, but it’s being implied that the pace of the

cougaman

12/17/24 9:53pm

Exactly this whole thread is about finding ways to improve upon this season…

LOLzzz

12/17/24 10:21pm

I’m not sure you understood a word that I said.

cougaman

12/17/24 10:27pm

Nor you I…

LOLzzz

12/17/24 10:30pm

First, this thread isn’t about finding ways to improve, it’s about pace of play

cougaman

12/17/24 10:38pm

The initial post in the thread is about changing pace of play TO IMPROVE 😂

LOLzzz

12/17/24 10:56pm

Right, it’s about pace of play. Not “ways”, a single “way.”

cougaman

12/17/24 11:03pm

It worked to start the season, but not finding ways to improve

LOLzzz

12/18/24 10:38am

They missed an opportunity they might not have had if they weren’t doing that

cougaman

12/18/24 12:43pm

🤡 It was apparent in previous games throughout the season prior. Utah showed

LOLzzz

12/18/24 3:22pm

It was also apparent that our defense was great and benefited from the strategy.

cougaman

12/18/24 3:40pm

Everything works until it doesn’t. That’s where good coaches adjust and adapt.

LOLzzz

12/18/24 3:46pm

So it was a good plan that helped our defense and helped contribute to the 10

cougaman

12/18/24 4:20pm

No the D (Jay Hill) made adjustments that contributed to those 10 wins.

LOLzzz

12/18/24 5:09pm

I did not say Arod was responsible for it. I don’t think it’s coming from him.

cougaman

12/18/24 8:06pm

That’s a rich take 🤡

LOLzzz

12/18/24 9:20pm

The head coach can absolutely tell the OC what to do, and he is going to have

cougaman

12/18/24 9:32pm

But to claim the DC has more say of the pace of the offense than the OC 😂

LOLzzz

12/18/24 9:34pm

You mean HC and associate head coach.

cougaman

12/18/24 9:38pm

Hill doesn't step across the ball to tell the OC what to do. Shoot, Kalani rarely tells the OC what to do. The offense

unctoothman

12/19/24 5:41am

Also your BM cussing me out would indicate your argument is weak at best.

LOLzzz

12/18/24 9:35pm

Sorry, I don’t pay for BMs so I can’t respond to the BMs you are sending

LOLzzz

12/18/24 9:40pm

Thats funny since you did respond. You obviously have are anti Arod.

cougaman

12/18/24 9:48pm

In order to be able to respond more than twice in an hour you gotta pay.

LOLzzz

12/18/24 11:06pm

Hill gave up 21 straight before adjusting anything vs ASU.

Cougarbib

12/19/24 12:52am

Pace of play wasn't done to help the defense. Ever. It was done because Retzlaff was playing hurt, because we had an

unctoothman

12/19/24 5:38am

The slow paced offense shouldn't be a straightjacket. There will be games wheie

russkiejedi

12/18/24 8:17pm

Maybe, but it’s great to look at it in hindsight and say “It was wrong there.”

cougaman

12/18/24 8:23pm

In hindsight? The Kansas game was a debacle throughout. It almost worked anyway

russkiejedi

12/18/24 9:53pm

And the slow pace is probably meant to help the defense stay fresh due to lack

cougaman

12/18/24 9:56pm

List the Big 12 teams that were better than 10-2. We happened to play our

Cougarbib

12/17/24 9:08pm

We are 10-2. Our recruiting rankings are WAY above our AP rankings. And you think our scheme was wrong? Of course the

HarlemCoug

12/17/24 5:40pm

I’m old enough to remember when CBers cried about the fast pace of Anae’s GFGH.

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