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Dec 18, 2024
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cougaman
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The head coach can absolutely tell the OC what to do, and he is going to have
conversations with his DC/Associate to make those decisions. You really are special if you done understand that
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I really dislike the slow pace of the offense, for several reasons.
acadian8
All-American
12/17/24 4:59pm
#2 is your only valid point if any substance.
Cougarbib
12/17/24 5:06pm
Maybe not #1, but #3 certainly is. Slower paces result in an average margin of
BYUCLA
12/17/24 5:47pm
Neither make a big difference because more possessions for O puts our D out for
Cougarbib
12/17/24 7:01pm
10-2
Cougarclaw
12/17/24 5:07pm
And the biggest loss was in big part because of slow pace
I'mBatman
12/17/24 5:29pm
The biggest loss was from giving up 3 quick TDs and an onsides kick.
Cougarbib
12/17/24 7:03pm
Such a narrow-minded comment…
LOLzzz
12/17/24 5:30pm
I completely fail to understand why CBers want to downplay our record. For some strange reason so many are unsatisfied
HarlemCoug
12/17/24 5:43pm
Being 10-2 means we lost twice and the offense was a key part of those losses
arcawley
12/17/24 6:25pm
The D and ST were at least as big a part of those losses. 3 TDs in 1st half.
Cougarbib
12/17/24 7:06pm
I’m not downplaying the record. I said two things can be good at the same time.
LOLzzz
12/17/24 8:32pm
I don't understand the desire to use it as a talisman against any and all
russkiejedi
12/18/24 8:15pm
RE: Such a narrow-minded comment…
Cougarclaw
12/17/24 6:12pm
It’s also narrow minded to dismiss the fact that byu overperformed, and it
cougaman
12/17/24 7:47pm
Pat on the back to those who are content with almost excellent. 10-2 beat preseason expectations, 10-2 was below
unctoothman
12/17/24 8:50pm
So you aren’t going to give any credit on the wins to a slow paced offense and
cougaman
12/17/24 8:53pm
No the disconnect is that people are saying you have to be happy with a 10-2
LOLzzz
12/17/24 9:03pm
That's exactly what I'm saying. You do have to be happy with a 10-2. If you're not, then you're doing BYU football wrong
HarlemCoug
12/17/24 9:08pm
I can be happy w/ 10-2 & upset that we lost the last 2/3. Not mutually exclusive
arcawley
12/17/24 9:14pm
Enjoy your participation trophy 😂
LOLzzz
12/17/24 9:17pm
Sure there is room for improvement, but it’s being implied that the pace of the
cougaman
12/17/24 9:53pm
Exactly this whole thread is about finding ways to improve upon this season…
LOLzzz
12/17/24 10:21pm
I’m not sure you understood a word that I said.
cougaman
12/17/24 10:27pm
Nor you I…
LOLzzz
12/17/24 10:30pm
First, this thread isn’t about finding ways to improve, it’s about pace of play
cougaman
12/17/24 10:38pm
The initial post in the thread is about changing pace of play TO IMPROVE 😂
LOLzzz
12/17/24 10:56pm
Right, it’s about pace of play. Not “ways”, a single “way.”
cougaman
12/17/24 11:03pm
It worked to start the season, but not finding ways to improve
LOLzzz
12/18/24 10:38am
They missed an opportunity they might not have had if they weren’t doing that
cougaman
12/18/24 12:43pm
🤡 It was apparent in previous games throughout the season prior. Utah showed
LOLzzz
12/18/24 3:22pm
It was also apparent that our defense was great and benefited from the strategy.
cougaman
12/18/24 3:40pm
Everything works until it doesn’t. That’s where good coaches adjust and adapt.
LOLzzz
12/18/24 3:46pm
So it was a good plan that helped our defense and helped contribute to the 10
cougaman
12/18/24 4:20pm
No the D (Jay Hill) made adjustments that contributed to those 10 wins.
LOLzzz
12/18/24 5:09pm
I did not say Arod was responsible for it. I don’t think it’s coming from him.
cougaman
12/18/24 8:06pm
That’s a rich take 🤡
LOLzzz
12/18/24 9:20pm
The head coach can absolutely tell the OC what to do, and he is going to have
cougaman
12/18/24 9:32pm
But to claim the DC has more say of the pace of the offense than the OC 😂
LOLzzz
12/18/24 9:34pm
You mean HC and associate head coach.
cougaman
12/18/24 9:38pm
Hill doesn't step across the ball to tell the OC what to do. Shoot, Kalani rarely tells the OC what to do. The offense
unctoothman
12/19/24 5:41am
Also your BM cussing me out would indicate your argument is weak at best.
LOLzzz
12/18/24 9:35pm
Sorry, I don’t pay for BMs so I can’t respond to the BMs you are sending
LOLzzz
12/18/24 9:40pm
Thats funny since you did respond. You obviously have are anti Arod.
cougaman
12/18/24 9:48pm
In order to be able to respond more than twice in an hour you gotta pay.
LOLzzz
12/18/24 11:06pm
Hill gave up 21 straight before adjusting anything vs ASU.
Cougarbib
12/19/24 12:52am
Pace of play wasn't done to help the defense. Ever. It was done because Retzlaff was playing hurt, because we had an
unctoothman
12/19/24 5:38am
The slow paced offense shouldn't be a straightjacket. There will be games wheie
russkiejedi
12/18/24 8:17pm
Maybe, but it’s great to look at it in hindsight and say “It was wrong there.”
cougaman
12/18/24 8:23pm
In hindsight? The Kansas game was a debacle throughout. It almost worked anyway
russkiejedi
12/18/24 9:53pm
And the slow pace is probably meant to help the defense stay fresh due to lack
cougaman
12/18/24 9:56pm
List the Big 12 teams that were better than 10-2. We happened to play our
Cougarbib
12/17/24 9:08pm
We are 10-2. Our recruiting rankings are WAY above our AP rankings. And you think our scheme was wrong? Of course the
HarlemCoug
12/17/24 5:40pm
I’m old enough to remember when CBers cried about the fast pace of Anae’s GFGH.
Abe Froman
12/17/24 6:16pm
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