Also, the cave was closed at the request of the Jones family. They told the land owner

Dec 14, 2024
9:25:15am

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that they wanted the entire cave to be his grave, and that they didn't want people recreating in it with his body in there.

The landowner agreed and destroyed the cave.

Aftermath

Information on the Nutty Putty Cave tragedy of 2009, when caver John Jones died after being trapped in an inverted position for 28 hours

https://nuttyputtytragedy.blogspot.com/2019/01/aftermath.html

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I always find the Nutty Putty cave to be amusing whenever it's talked about online. Due to the tragic

MHallDidNothingWr0ng Nice Leather Pants

9:10am

Jon “bones” Jones

Reasonable1

9:19am

Didn't they use dynamite to collapse the cave to permanently seal Jones in there?

Skeptical Optimist

9:20am

I didn't know they dynamited it. If that's the case than I guess he's permanently stuck down there.

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

9:25am

Reading some of the quotes in the link I posted below, it looks like it's not an irreversible

Skeptical Optimist

9:32am

No just cemented up the entrance

BYU Grounds

12:47pm

Also, the cave was closed at the request of the Jones family. They told the land owner

Skeptical Optimist

9:25am

Amusing & Tragic don’t seem to align

Chicago Cougar

9:29am

Once was enough for me. I didn’t know I was claustrophobic until I explored that cave.

Tokolosh

9:30am

Same here

DavisCoCoug

9:33am

Yep. I didn't get very far until I said "nope" and waited outside.

fredgarvin

10:03am

We’ve made everything so safe that there’s not enough opportunities for

Nakedbootleg

9:30am

They closed the nutty putty cave so now there is nothing challenging for young adults and they can’t hang out in large

shimmy

9:34am

Yes, absolutes are always what we deal with. Always.

Nakedbootleg

9:37am

Closing places where people die recreating.is a slippery slope.

Madam Pattirini

9:38am

I get it, but I’m familiar with 2 cave closings in Utah in 40 years. There has to be some balance. The cave where

shimmy

11:00am

I'm not passionate about it, but I'd leave public spaces open and warn.

Madam Pattirini

12:43pm

Nah. No reason for anyone to go in there or any other cave like that

Beggar

9:30am

There is one reason…

Russell Feathers

9:36am

RE: There is one reason…

fredgarvin

10:04am

Yes

Russell Feathers

10:05am

Escape Rooms have taken the place of actual places like this

OU Cougar

9:34am

I did it twice. Wasnt for me.

Longseason

9:37am

RE: I always find the Nutty Putty cave to be amusing whenever it's talked about

Japan Coug

9:37am

In general, the number of pansies in society has tracked closely with the rate of declining testosterone over the years.

Rules For Thee

9:39am

Insurance and liability have a lot to do with it

Skeptical Optimist

9:44am

Spot on, used to hit the caves frequently in the 90’s …birth canal was tough tho

DoctorEvil

9:40am

Went many times. I was to big to do the birth canal but the group I was with wasn't

crimedog

9:41am

The birth canal was definitely freaky though.

inertiaman

9:46am

They should reopen Gollum's Cave in Provo. Sounded awesome.

Wife_Apologist

9:46am

Very very different caves. Nutty Putty was relatively safe. Jones broke a number of huge spelunking rules and used

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

9:54am

What were some of the rules he broke and bad judgment he used? Honest

kos

10:08am

The biggest one was "if you don't know where you're going, don't go."

volleyjiver

10:21am

He went into an unexplored section of the cave he was unfamiliar with, and then instead of turning around he went head

MHallDidNothingWr0ng

10:27am

Didn't somebody die in that cave in the 90s? Got stuck in a tunnel and drowned?

cougarmeister

11:01am

2005

Wife_Apologist

11:56am

Definitely was better the smaller you were. I went in a few times post growth spurt just because I didn't want to look

mokelembembe

9:58am

It was so much fun.

Mufasa

9:59am

100% agreed. I remember being so pissed they closed it. Just close all the roads

RUNBYU1

10:03am

I get your point, but those reactions aren't exactly equivalent.

Jeffacka

10:36am

The world is a big place with lots of people

stonecougar

10:25am

Amen. It was the first date with my wife. I took multiple groups there myself and I'm no caver.

CSoul

10:56am

Who was the landowner? Maybe they were just tired of the liability.

Reasonable1

11:45am

It's State Trust land

RUNBYU1

12:42pm

Does the state have liability for people that die inside?

Reasonable1

12:53pm

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