Then talk about time to get your own players into the system, there's a big difference between the 2 regardless if you wanna split hairs here. OSU is more the equivalent to SMU not Kansas and still you had a major bone headed call in that game that shouldn't ever have been called. OSU has a terrible D and easily could have been 52-35. If you can't see that, there's not a reason to have the discussion.

ARod improved over 23 let's not get that twisted, but still had a middling offense and has been in the program for much longer than his counterpart. If you're good with a middling O and ready for defense to carry the team, you might actually be asking for us to be Utah