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Dec 12, 2024
3:22:20pm

CameronG Starter

Where do you get the idea I'm arguing their resumes?

Do 16 seeds in the NCAA tournament have the same resume of the first team out of the NCAA Tournament? Of course not. Should we kick out all the teams of the NCAA Tournament not deemed better than the first team out?

Better yet, how about this? A 32 team NCAA Tournament where the power conferences fill all the spots and we'll give one spot to the highest ranked conference champion of the mid-majors to be the lowest seed in the tournament? That sounds good, right?

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CameronG

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Time

Get rid of CCG games and just do this:

nephicoug

11:59am

That takes away the fun of crowing a true conference champion

mudpupper

12:00pm

* One True Champion

DirtyWater

12:13pm

Once conferences are so big that you don’t play everyone, they become less

Rexy Coug

12:28pm

A better alternative (suggested by someone I read somewhere) is to have game 12

TailgateU

1:04pm

Could even be fun to have cross conference games the week of CCG

PHXSUNS31

1:17pm

No. Each conference should have a 4 team conf playoff.

Icelandic Cougar

12:01pm

5 extra games for the champion is like an extra half-season.

OPINIONS

12:02pm

shorten the regular season to 11. 16 games max.

Schultz is back

12:08pm

Yeah. These kids don't make enough money for anything more than 16.

8:01pm

You do 16 for health reasons. As the NFL goes beyond that they're going to have

Schultz is back

9:00pm

We're already there. If a Round 1 team plays in the CCG and then plays for natty

Doogal McCougar

12:13pm

1 CCG and 4 (max) CFP games currently. So no different if you eliminate the CCG

thewaterboy

12:48pm

I'd say do both. Make the final weekend conference championship weekend. Have

thewaterboy

12:05pm

Money

12:12pm

Careful. People love first round byes for undeserving teams around here.

12:12pm

I like this concept....

BYU Grounds

12:13pm

This looks great BUT... Making the postseason better at the expense of the regular season isn't appealing to me. I enjoy

HarlemCoug

12:13pm

That’s not true re cutting regular season unless you count CCGs as regular seaso

chilawcoug

12:25pm

I do count them as regular season. The worry is injury. By the time a national champion is crowned it's not crazy to

HarlemCoug

2:24pm

There is no reason to include teams like Ohio, Marshall, and Jacksonville State

12:15pm

If they play in the same FBS level, they absolutely should be included.

Doogal McCougar

12:21pm

Auto bids to all conf champs ranked 20 or higher

byuTX

12:25pm

If you have a 24-team playoff, it seems like you'd have to give autobids out to

thewaterboy

12:52pm

He wants it down to 16, so it would do some work

chilawcoug

12:53pm

Unranked teams don't deserve a shot

byuTX

12:55pm

No, they shouldn’t. We don’t have to pretend like a 9-4 Jacksonville State might be the best team in the country

12:29pm

We all know UMBC sucks. No way they are as good as Virginia. UVA is the number 1

chilawcoug

12:31pm

Stop pretending like basketball and football are the same

12:38pm

Stop pretending that they aren’t similar

chilawcoug

12:41pm

It took a long time for a 16 to upset a 1, but those games are getting more and

CameronG

12:45pm

The increase in 15 seeds and 16 seeds winning also coincides decently well with

chilawcoug

12:48pm

Again, if we had a 68 team playoff, let them in. But there’s no reason to let them into a limited playoff when we

3:09pm

Where do you get the idea I'm arguing their resumes?

CameronG

3:22pm

then kick them out of the FBS. That's a better solution than having them get beat up on national tv.

HarlemCoug

2:25pm

Let's also get rid of the 13-16 seeds in the NCAA bball tournament. No reason to include teams like them.

SierraCoug

12:22pm

In a 68 team playoff in football, we can include them. But not now. Especially when basketball and football are so

12:25pm

It’s actually about the same ratio because there are fewer FBS conferences

chilawcoug

12:27pm

You misunderstand what I’m saying

12:38pm

But there are fewer BS teams than D1 basketball teams, so that negates the

chilawcoug

12:40pm

No, it doesn’t. Football rosters are way bigger than basketball rosters.

3:00pm

So teams seeded 12-16 in the NCAA Tournament don't deserve to be there for the

CameronG

3:27pm

The point of the playoff is to crown a champion, not figure out the best team.

chilawcoug

3:53pm

The point of the playoffs is to crown a champion of the best teams. That’s the whole point.

4:04pm

Is it to crown the best team or a champion of the best teams? If it is just

chilawcoug

4:10pm

Then let them prove it on the field and if they are so scared of losing to

CameronG

4:28pm

Everyone needs to remember these clever ideas when we roll out the new national championship playoff

Underhill

12:19pm

Replace undeserving teams like Ohio, Marshall, Jacksonville to get it down to 16. No byes, 4 weeks. 1st 2 home sites

byuTX

12:22pm

Or let them in so it’s a playoff where every team 100% controls their own

chilawcoug

12:28pm

No thanks. Let them earn a spot rather than give it to them

byuTX

12:34pm

Hahahaha earning a spot is exactly what I’m advocating. If an invitational is so

chilawcoug

12:35pm

Quite the opposite. Let them in if they can make it ~top 20

byuTX

12:36pm

“We’ll let the NCF West champion in if a committee with unlimited discretion

chilawcoug

12:39pm

The "NCF West champion" made its team up of drafted players, trades and FA's with a salary cap, collective bargaining,

byuTX

12:42pm

Okay substitute any sport or any league you want.

chilawcoug

12:43pm

Find me a sport where the resources are so different within the same division, whose teams aren't acquired through draft

byuTX

12:46pm

Every other college sport and division?

chilawcoug

12:49pm

there isn't a sport close to as different from biggest spender to lowest as FBS FB. The real solution is G5/P4 split

byuTX

12:51pm

You don’t think that D1 basketball is similar or even close? lol

chilawcoug

12:52pm

You do? lol

byuTX

12:55pm

Yeah I think the difference between Duke basketball and Coppin State basketball

chilawcoug

12:59pm

I don't. Coppin State, if good enough to get the 16 has a better shot vs. a #1 Duke than JSU has at Oregon. Not close.

byuTX

2:17pm

I guess you don't realize where the teams that get the 16 seeds are ranked in

CameronG

3:25pm

It’s silly to think JSU has any real chance at Oregon or UGA. Much easier in CBB.

byuTX

4:38pm

I agree, we all know Northern Illinois is the only team with a shot. JSU would

chilawcoug

4:55pm

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byuTX

5:29pm

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chilawcoug

5:36pm

And who decides if they're Top 20? How do they "prove it" if the big boys

CameronG

12:51pm

Through the magic of sight

byuTX

2:17pm

Like figure skating. No thanks.

mvtoro

2:33pm

I agree with that. But in figure skating they are all graded for doing the same thing. JSU shouldn’t be given a spot for

byuTX

4:36pm

Nah. When you make subjectivity control who is and who isn’t able to even compete for a “championship” in a league, then

mvtoro

4:52pm

Invitational is preferable at this level of CFB until major changes similar to those I laid out happen. That’s what we

byuTX

5:30pm

I agree that it’s a pipe dream because of power dynamics (short of a government “commissioner” takeover”) but it’s not

mvtoro

5:42pm

I think it makes sense…put top 4 from each P4, each G5 champ, 3 at-large

PHXSUNS31

12:54pm

RE: Get rid of CCG games and just do this:

Greg4BYU

12:55pm

How many regular season games does fcs

Cooouuugs

1:39pm

Or maybe just have a 16 team playoff, no bye

SV72 Sale

3:17pm

I like conference championships. It should hurt if you lose. Smu should be out.

ParentingNotForSissy

3:53pm

Meh. It should hurt even more if you don't qualify for the CCG.

Doogal McCougar

4:18pm

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