The correct throw on that play was to any of the WRs on the left side of the

Nov 18, 2024
7:02:09pm

BYUHgrad Truly Addicted User

formation. Watch the play again and you’ll see the play called was awesome as Marion was sooooo WIDE open…Jake just threw to the one receiver that want open (at all).

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I haven't been this upset with coaching in a long time.

The Y's Insider

Nov 18, 11:05am

Fade route and option were both audible. Both coach and player deserve some

BYUheaven

Nov 18, 11:07am

It was an audible but maybe he was coached to audible into that play if there

MaximusMeridius

Nov 18, 11:37am

Do our TE’s ever get double covered?

BYUheaven

Nov 18, 12:20pm

7 in box. 1 on 1 fade. If good throw then ok one way or ither

niqmadu

Nov 18, 4:27pm

That throw is incredibly difficult for any QB

MaximusMeridius

Nov 18, 5:26pm

Well, maybe. But maybe not, since many qbs do it well, including JR in past gam

niqmadu

Nov 18, 6:06pm

you mean in Yewt game where he threw the pic on the same play for the 2 point?

imdocrob

Nov 18, 9:21pm

1000% this ^^. The fade is low percentage even with an elite QB-TE combo

Cougulator

Nov 18, 7:02pm

The correct throw on that play was to any of the WRs on the left side of the

BYUHgrad

Nov 18, 7:02pm

Not true..on Arod show today he said he called the fade cause it worked well in

imdocrob

Nov 18, 9:19pm

I bet it hasn't really been that long.

shoganai

Nov 18, 11:07am

link?

The Y's Insider

Nov 18, 11:08am

Were you happy with the coaching in the previous 9-0 run? If not, maybe consider

Socrates Johnson

Nov 18, 11:08am

So you liked our strategy to eat clock?

The Y's Insider

Nov 18, 11:10am

Answer my question and I will answer yours.

Socrates Johnson

Nov 18, 11:11am

The Y's Insider

Nov 18, 11:16am

I think the answer below is my answer. We were getting almost 5 YPC and pass pro

Socrates Johnson

Nov 18, 11:23am

Also I think it is worth saying that anyone would have thought going in we could

Socrates Johnson

Nov 18, 7:34pm

We ran the ball effectively and got first downs. If we would have broke off

NYCougz

Nov 18, 11:13am

If the defense gives you 4-5 yards per play on a drive, you take it

Skeptical Optimist

Nov 18, 11:13am

when you aren't putting points on the board, you have to move off it

stansburycoug

Nov 18, 2:53pm

There has been a vocal contingent on this board w/coaching concerns all along

reddead

Nov 18, 12:07pm

I don't care that we are 9-1 Arod is a bad coach. He has more years of bad coach

Grock

Nov 18, 2:01pm

I remember fans calling for Chow's head... because he was a 'bad coach'.

Benfica1

Nov 18, 2:10pm

Was that back when he was Lavell's WR coach but later claimed he was QB coach?

Les IsMore

Nov 18, 6:15pm

I thought this before this year. I've moved off of bad coach. He's an ok coach

stansburycoug

Nov 18, 2:59pm

I agree. He's a solid coach for a middle of the pack Big XII team

reddead

Nov 18, 3:06pm

No, I was not

baller_jayz

Nov 18, 12:19pm

irrelevant take.

Love Cougs

Nov 18, 3:01pm

Do you think we were trying to run out the clock or just taking what the defense

NYCougz

Nov 18, 11:11am

We routinely snapped the ball with 2-4 seconds on the play clock.

The Y's Insider

Nov 18, 11:12am

And sometimes more. We aren’t a hurry up offense.

NYCougz

Nov 18, 11:14am

Shortening the game invites more luck/variability into the outcome. If Kalani is

royal_blue

Nov 18, 11:11am

Because something happens, that doesn’t mean it was our strategy.

NYCougz

Nov 18, 11:16am

If people have a link to this being a strategy

NYCougz

Nov 18, 11:35am

So there's this thing called a play clock. The more seconds that go by between

royal_blue

Nov 18, 11:58am

So when we threw 50 yard bombs in the first half

NYCougz

Nov 18, 12:47pm

We ran clock. Deliberately. Idk how to put it more simply than that.

royal_blue

Nov 18, 12:56pm

You are saying we wanted less possessions to shrink the game.

NYCougz

Nov 18, 1:06pm

Look at how many seconds elapsed off the play clock when it was running vs

royal_blue

Nov 18, 2:36pm

So if we speed up 2 seconds that might add 2 minutes?

NYCougz

Nov 18, 2:42pm

I see you have trouble understanding what an average is.

royal_blue

Nov 18, 3:56pm

No I understand it. I think is what you are missing

NYCougz

Nov 18, 5:15pm

“Kalani has deployed this many times, more often than not.” 🤷‍♂️

royal_blue

Nov 18, 5:56pm

We are methodical. This is who we have been. It’s not a special new strategy

NYCougz

Nov 18, 6:10pm

It might be mercy that we lost the game and will miss the playoffs, could you

CameronG

Nov 18, 11:27am

That was the gameplan I might expect vs. Alabama or Georgia.

The Y's Insider

Nov 18, 11:37am

They'd get blown off the field with that gameplan

CameronG

Nov 18, 11:40am

We beat SMU, we could beat those teams. Kalani has a descent bowl record

NYC and Japan

Nov 18, 12:51pm

No way, if Kalani and Co got so scared of playing 3-6 Kansas at home that they

CameronG

Nov 18, 1:26pm

They were scared? What does that mean?

NYCougz

Nov 18, 1:35pm

Yes they were scared at the thought of getting blown out so they went super

CameronG

Nov 18, 1:53pm

How many games have we been scarred?

NYCougz

Nov 18, 1:59pm

That's a good question for them, but based on the way the team played and the

CameronG

Nov 18, 2:10pm

So how many games scared? It just started this game?

NYCougz

Nov 18, 2:13pm

Running the ball in the redzone isn't a bad idea I more have an issue with the

CameronG

Nov 18, 2:28pm

I don’t like the jet sweep at all on second down as well

NYCougz

Nov 18, 2:36pm

Play calling on the last drive wasn't as bad as I originally thought.

runnincoug

Nov 18, 11:16am

I agree. I wanted us to throw on 2nd down, but hindsight is 20/20.

The Y's Insider

Nov 18, 11:18am

yes, agreed. As Chase said, we played with fire too much.

runnincoug

Nov 18, 11:23am

Slow-developing option to the boundary side... SMH

reddead

Nov 18, 12:09pm

Funny, I thought it was brilliant to eat clock and keep their strength (Daniels

SV72 Sale

Nov 18, 11:17am

With how the game had been going, I found it unwise to waste so much clock.

Yucatan

Nov 18, 11:22am

I think the plan at HT was to dominate in the trenches

NYCougz

Nov 18, 11:29am

I might agree except we ran nearly 40 seconds between each snap.

The Y's Insider

Nov 18, 11:35am

We have done that a lot this season.

NYCougz

Nov 18, 11:37am

No. Don't get cute. Score and turn it to the D.

Love Cougs

Nov 18, 3:04pm

That’s hardly getting cute. That’s what most coaches strive to do

SV72 Sale

Nov 18, 3:24pm

I think it was late, they were tired and cold, and just wanted to get to bed

Mitty

Nov 18, 11:40am

I agree that shortening the game (from the start) was not a great plan...

Benfica1

Nov 18, 11:43am

Seems as though coaching has lost confidence in the offense, specifically

notsofast

Nov 18, 11:43am

Fade route was the correct call, given the defensive look

Homo Erectus

Nov 18, 11:53am

That's just not true. A fade route is among the highest difficulty throws in FB.

Ferb

Nov 18, 12:31pm

We were gashing them in the run game. WHY THROW THE BALL????

Rocketman

Nov 18, 1:49pm

Quite the overreaction. I have been far more upset with our coaches decades

Cougz19

Nov 18, 12:12pm

Well Grimes is on the other side which may have played a factor in our scheme

ElkaholicCoug

Nov 18, 12:44pm

Do you think ARod should have considered Kansas’s elite secondary?

conetah

Nov 18, 12:58pm

Don't let it ruin your day. It's just sports.

IronPotato

Nov 18, 1:01pm

Why the whole slow play on offense was such a dumb game plan

byublue42

Nov 18, 1:38pm

So true, we're not a team itching to blow the opponent out - but...

BYUFootballRocks1

Nov 18, 1:42pm

Kalani = DAWG Jay = DAWG Poppinga = DAWG

baller_jayz

Nov 18, 1:51pm

Much easier to just accept who BYU is. It is difficult to be disappointed for

indocoug

Nov 18, 2:16pm

This is just who Arod is folks

runningryan

Nov 18, 2:32pm

You are so right

I'mBatman

Nov 18, 2:33pm

I'm frustrated, but it is really difficult to be detailed or accusatory in my

QBarrister

Nov 18, 3:53pm

A take that is far too reasonable and measured for this board...

reddead

Nov 18, 4:01pm

How do we know that Kalani didn't tell him to shorten the game?

dYrtbYkerYder

Nov 18, 4:29pm

That's the problem, he DOESN'T seem to learn from these.

cougar95

Nov 18, 4:35pm

I do not blame coach at all for the fade throw. If he throws accurate and gets

MrSandman

Nov 18, 5:48pm

Have you ever seen Jake throw a fade successfully near the goal line?

stansburycoug

Nov 18, 7:38pm

You forgot 10 men on the field for Kansas first TD

PastyGangsta

Nov 18, 6:30pm

If coaching is so bad how are we 9-1?

Pretorian

Nov 18, 6:59pm

Y insider is a fool.

Hammer15

Nov 18, 8:39pm

Well, get over it. We have a game to win Saturday

OldFogey

Nov 18, 9:16pm

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