That haven't won a national championship. Even so, most of the top coaches and teams out there have a loss or two this year, including Smart, DeBoer, Dabo, etc. Some have a bad loss like ours, including Cristobal and Freeman. Some have won natty's, but some haven't. Being in contention for the CCG and a conference title, and possibly a CFP berth is incredible for BYU, I'll take that ceiling all day. And within our respective conference, we're doing as well or better than many of the great coaches out there. We've been ranked with and above the likes of Georgia and Alabama while playing a P4 schedule. That's crazy, I would never have guessed that for this year. That's a phenomenal ceiling, if that is in fact the ceiling.