year. 6-1 against the spread is exactly the evidence you are talking about for this year. Of course I’m not talking about the long haul- I’m sure we are close to 50% against the spread long term. We have plenty of evidence this year that Vegas doesn’t like BYU this year.

The real point of my post was actually just to show that when people talk about Vegas liking or not liking a team doesn’t mean they don’t understand that it is the bettors that dictate the lines not some personal bias from Vegas oddsmakers. We all know that and assume that people will understand what we mean when we talk about “Vegas.” It is already implied when we talk about Vegas, yet always draws some response needing to explain to us how Vegas actually works.

We want to have a conversation about how wrong Vegas (meaning bettors) has been this year, but are continually sidetracked into unneeded and obvious explanations about how Vegas lines work.