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rcbyufan
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Your way makes more sense to me. I hope you're right but I think the tool may be
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There are 6 teams that can finish with 1 loss or fewer in Big 12. But they all
rcbyufan
Oct 23, 10:51am
This is BYU's year.
BlueFever
Oct 23, 10:52am
RE: This is BYU's year.
Socrates Johnson
Oct 23, 11:13am
RE: This is BYU's year.
Pangare
Oct 23, 12:12pm
No, this is different.
BlueFever
Oct 23, 12:28pm
We just need to win!
Burton162
Oct 23, 1:45pm
Seems crazy that there are so many teams we don't play.
momowagon
Oct 23, 10:54am
9 games in a 16 team conf.
Soupie
Oct 23, 10:56am
This is the new normal with these huge conferences and no divisions. It leads to all these weird tie breaker scenarios
YIsForBrigham
Oct 23, 11:01am
If we had 1 loss right now, this situation would be really frustrating. I hope
momowagon
Oct 23, 11:39am
Divisions have gone the way of the dodo bird.
acadian8
Oct 23, 3:48pm
The KSU vs ISU game will most likely determine who goes to CCG. Love a BYU/ISU CCG but BYU still has to win.
Soupie
Oct 23, 10:55am
Which is bad news for us when it comes to possible tiebreakers. This means we
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 10:56am
Crazy to see that BYU has played/will play the big12 current bottom 7 teams!
FrankenCoug
Oct 23, 11:02am
Bottom 7 after 4 games is not necessarily same after 9 games
Happy As Larry
Oct 23, 12:30pm
Especially when you consider preseason predicted records...
Les IsMore
Oct 23, 1:00pm
I don't see Utah on that list. Where are they?
Sparkling Delirium
Oct 23, 11:00am
The list does not include teams not in contention, or which really really suck.
All-American
Oct 23, 11:06am
That was kind of the point
Sparkling Delirium
Oct 23, 11:14am
The point being that Utah really really sucks, just to be clear.
All-American
Oct 23, 11:18am
Will be fun if (for once) the league refs “do us a solid” in a game or two for
Cougar76
Oct 23, 11:01am
It's about Prestige too. We want in and we want to face KSU
DataMouth
Oct 23, 11:01am
Did you miss the game earlier this season. BYU already beat KSU by 29 pts.
Soupie
Oct 23, 11:06am
Yeah - Yet KSU still has the most national respect IMO - Let's beat them again
DataMouth
Oct 23, 11:11am
Feel that's shifted but who cares anyway? Keep getting scoreboard & it won't matter.
Soupie
Oct 23, 11:13am
CO would get us a ton of eyeballs in the CCG. Hard to believe the committee
momowagon
Oct 23, 11:43am
Remarkable. At the beginning of the year we thought BYU's schedule was stacked.
All-American
Oct 23, 11:05am
It was but that was based on ridiculous preseason ranks.
Soupie
Oct 23, 11:06am
Yeah, not a great look for preseason predictions. Some bad whiffs all around.
All-American
Oct 23, 11:10am
To be fair, there are 8 new teams within the last 2 years. Voters don't really
FrankenCoug
Oct 23, 11:12am
Still half a conference season to go, low key hate big conferences
Projectoor
Oct 23, 11:06am
Poor Cincinnati
trom2foot3
Oct 23, 11:17am
It looks like CO has the easiest path.
CascadeBYUFan
Oct 23, 11:21am
Yeah that's really annoying. I still think they might struggle with some
YOHONOMOTO
Oct 23, 5:38pm
The most important loss that we need is this weekend. Colorado needs to lose
Best Guess
Oct 23, 11:50am
I may be rooting for Utah to beat Colorado....
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 12:04pm
RE: I may be rooting for Utah to beat Colorado....
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 12:04pm
Wow, that calculator is pretty cool!
acadian8
Oct 23, 3:45pm
if we have only 1 loss we are still guaranteed to make the CCG
realisticCoug42
Oct 23, 12:06pm
I'm not sure that is true. I've counted 7 different "tie scenarios" possible
rcbyufan
Oct 23, 12:09pm
it depends on common opponents and who the loss is to.
molodyets
Oct 23, 2:10pm
Not guaranteed - depends on tiebreakers. We really need K State to keep
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 12:16pm
But we need them to lose to Iowa state IF ISU is still undefeated going into their game with KSU. Don’t want a 3 way
yapacoug
Oct 23, 4:06pm
I can get on board with that because we want to face an undefeated team for
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 4:51pm
Wrong. This is 100% incorrect. We still could get in. But it is not guaranteed at this point.
yapacoug
Oct 23, 4:00pm
Not guaranteed. But I’d say 90+% chance
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 4:53pm
Not sure on that because I think a 3 way tie between BYU, ISU, & KSU has got a
rcbyufan
Oct 23, 4:56pm
If that happens then BYU is 100% in the CCG.
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 4:58pm
I'm almost 100% sure that is not correct. Use this tool. They don't use the
rcbyufan
Oct 23, 5:14pm
That's dumb if it wouldn't count. Maybe I'm misinterpreting this:
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 5:28pm
That tool has us at #2 if our loss is to ASU. So some hope still. We'd be 6-0
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 5:32pm
If our one loss is to ASU then that would remove all doubt since that's not
molodyets
Oct 23, 5:33pm
This is a bug. The team comparison for records would both have one loss so it
molodyets
Oct 23, 5:32pm
I'm re reading the tiebreak procedure and I'm afraid he might be right....when
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 5:36pm
Your way makes more sense to me. I hope you're right but I think the tool may be
rcbyufan
Oct 23, 8:19pm
I believe the tool is correct. There are a couple odd tie breakers.
Best Guess
Oct 23, 8:37pm
Crazy how bad preseason predictions were. All 5 play 2 or 3 games…ISU 3
NYC and Japan
Oct 23, 12:11pm
I could realistically see BYU, K state, Iowa St, and CU all have one loss
byuchocolatemilk
Oct 23, 12:32pm
That is the only 4 way tie possible.
rcbyufan
Oct 23, 12:36pm
And probably puts us at #4 in that scenario:(
Burton162
Oct 23, 1:50pm
If there's a 4 way tie at 8-1:
molodyets
Oct 23, 2:10pm
Can you walk me through that? I would have thought K St and ISU would get in
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 2:23pm
Or would K State win the 1st tiebreaker and we win the 2nd because we beat K St?
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 2:24pm
The only way that 4 way tie can happen is if ISU's only loss is to KSU.
molodyets
Oct 23, 2:33pm
Are we sure KSU would win the 4-way tiebreaker with SOS? Or is that an
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 2:37pm
Might be an assumption but they would have played all 8-1 BYU, ISU, and Colorado
rcbyufan
Oct 23, 2:49pm
Assumptions but the gap is large now so probably safe.
molodyets
Oct 23, 4:44pm
Who is in if Iowa St is undefeated and BYU and Colo both 1 loss?
libertycoug
Oct 23, 12:38pm
Depends on where K State ends up compared to other teams we and Colorado both
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 12:46pm
We are in. We beat KState and Colorado lost to them.
rcbyufan
Oct 23, 12:47pm
Unless we lose to UCF and they end up higher than K State. Just depends at this
RGGeemer
Oct 23, 12:48pm
This is technically correct. If UCF wins 5 in a row and KState loses 3, we
rcbyufan
Oct 23, 1:36pm
And if you do the SEC, with LSU, Missouri, Alabama, Texas, Georgia, similar...
Celeritas
Oct 23, 1:22pm
Bookmarking this. Great job
Your Royal Blueness
Oct 23, 2:07pm
Amazing how different this would look if we didn't have those 3 final plays of the OSU game
HarlemCoug
Oct 23, 3:22pm
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