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Sep 27, 2024
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WDaddy
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So, we don't like capitalism anymore?
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What do you think the main cause for both parents needing to work today is?
conetah
12:12am
Cost of goods, services, living, are high and a one middle class income can't cover it.
TANK
12:17am
Yep, they’re not DINKS.
Q-grr
7:44am
Exponential rises in the cost of healthcare, housing, food, insurance.
rad dawg
12:18am
Darn those MBAs.
dYrtbYkerYder
7:31am
Right?
Dryfire
7:35am
But those exponential increases have to be supported by the ability to pay. If
DiamondMo
7:37am
Yes and no.
rad dawg
8:59am
I agree it’s a chicken or the egg thing. But industry didn’t just become greedy.
DiamondMo
9:26am
As economic opportunities available to women increased, more chose to work and..
BYU'01
9:31am
Impact of the pill. Now more women can choose, and many choose to work. As hard
dYrtbYkerYder
9:38am
In 1964 <7% of women had a college degree. That’s ~6x higher today. With
BYU'01
10:17am
And you don't think that's related to the pill coming out in 1960?
dYrtbYkerYder
11:18am
The % of men college degrees is up 3-4x. Women just had a lower starting base.
BYU'01
12:54pm
Government interference in healthcare, housing, insurance, and education
Dryfire
7:43am
Crony capitalism
rad dawg
9:06am
Which is just another word for socialism
Dryfire
9:23am
Should we call higher ed an 'industry'? It is dominated by government. Gov'ts
BYU'01
9:33am
Yes its an industry.
rad dawg
10:27am
Despite all those technology improvements the count of employees at govt-run
BYU'01
1:10pm
Our society - global, national, local - has never been wealthier
BYU'01
8:42am
So, we don't like capitalism anymore?
WDaddy
8:50am
Up to “complete insanity” spot on. After that lolol. MBA’s causing inflation lol
Big Daddy D
9:27am
MBAs ruin most things. They have definitely done a lot to ruin Medicine
JosephAllenMaldonado
11:14am
Government Spending now over 40% of Total GDP, it’s the cause of inflation
SwanSong
12:01pm
All of the above plus a need/desire for excess.
mulletino
12:20am
Higher standard of living, and lower wages
Jericho
12:32am
To your point. What used to be luxuries are now necessities. You cannot survive
Powerbait DPM
8:27am
Another thing to add, “starter homes” are now much bigger and more expensive
Powerbait DPM
8:55am
Our consumption relative to our grandpas is staggering. We are so wealthy.
BYU'01
8:48am
Two household incomes becoming the norm many years ago, which created more
CougFan4EverEver
12:36am
“Unintended”
BaseCoug
12:49am
Agreed
conetah
3:50am
Yep, now schools and media control the agenda for kids instead of string nuclear
palangi
5:35am
This is a big part of the answer. A 2-income household in a world of 1-income
delbert
2:18am
I think this is the primary answer as well. If everyone gets a 2nd income the
DiamondMo
7:31am
All other answers are correct, but I’d ad that at least in America, middle class
gwalker
12:39am
As middle class you bought your home before this exponential inflation because
palangi
5:40am
It's funny because I hear some of my younger coworkers complain all the time
cougarfan84
6:34am
Yeah, they’re not middle class, they’re just financially stupid
palangi
7:04am
If you had to buy your house today would the mortgage payment really only
JuicyJam
7:29am
They are nearly 3x the median US household income
BYU'01
7:36am
In 1980 the US was in the middle of one of the worst inflationary periods ever
bythenumbers
7:14am
A 20 inch color TV in 1980 cost over $1,300 2024 dollars. Crazy.
Byron McNertney
8:25am
We never had cable TV, cell phones, Internet. Our TV was 27”. Vacations where we
BYU'01
7:18am
The most important holiday in America used to be Christmas, and we didn't have
Shihan
12:49am
If you’re doing Halloween right there’s a lot of free candy to be had.
Q-grr
7:46am
Greed. All around
BaseCoug
12:52am
FOMO
Dr MoBYU
12:55am
Middle class w 1 working parent is dying.
VenomFarmer
1:57am
Need?
MormonThug
2:55am
How low could your income be and your wife still be able to stay at home? $80k? $60k? $50k?
KingDave
3:05am
You're asking the wrong crowd. Did you forget? Everyone on CB is north of $500K
Y05
3:43am
Very true. About 20 years ago, I was making about $25k and we could not have survived if my wife didn’t get a job.
KingDave
8:53am
Well, in our family’s case….
Yukon
3:09am
Man I had a beautifully crafted explanation I typed up but it didn’t save haha
conetah
3:18am
Reattempt: I’ll try to summarize.
conetah
3:46am
Primary worker income earnings is insufficient.
Recipefordisaster
3:18am
Yup. I work for the church and we can't do it on one.
IronPotato
7:42am
Everybody else is doing it, so they have more disposable income
Y05
3:29am
When everyone does the extra credit, it's no longer extra credit
Dataguy
3:33am
As # of dual-income families increase, so does the cost of living & real estate.
cougfrvr
4:31am
People like stuff. I used to do home health. Met a lot of people that raised 5
Squirt
4:32am
I bet you have a lot of stories you could share!
tyler durden
5:32am
Need/want confusion. I agree with a lot of what has been written here
Gentleman Stan
4:51am
The rise of too many other dual-income homes
Gustav
4:53am
An unfortunately ironic result of feminism
Gustav
4:55am
I think we are needier now. We think we need everything. We go to more
boctabulous
6:10am
lol. Survival. Especially if you live in California.
Idacoug
6:15am
We've always been and continue to be a single-income home.
jdub
6:22am
My wife works because she enjoys it and it helps her keep her sanity.
supertux
6:29am
This is exactly my wife’s perspective as well.
RootieBoy
6:51am
Feminism and materialism
CaliforniaCougar22
6:41am
My wife is working to basically pay off student loans.
Future_Tacos
6:43am
Interestingly, I read a book called "The Two Income Trap"
Courtimedes
6:54am
I think that if costs dropped drastically then that would just mean we would all
boctabulous
6:54am
Materialism
ballen
7:10am
The original cause was materialism and necessity, but now it’s leaning heavy
palangi
7:15am
I don't know, but when my dad was my age as the sole* income
JuicyJam
7:24am
Also, way too easy to spend our money. Used to be that you had to get up and
boctabulous
7:32am
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IronPotato
7:38am
Well, I work for the church and market value for what I do is too low to be a
IronPotato
7:43am
People want too much stuff.
TailgateU
7:47am
Ring alarm, disney plus, hulu, netflix, spotify, pandora, youtubetv, HBO max,
boctabulous
8:01am
You probably listed like $150-$200/month in subscriptions. Rising cost of housing, groceries, utilities is easily the
RootieBoy
8:20am
However, that was not my first post in this thread. Far from it. I was simply
boctabulous
9:11am
There is a book about this.
Jelly Man
9:31am
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